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« on: May 17, 2004, 09:49:05 AM »

Just kidding...I'll find one, thank you very much.

I've always tried to be courteous & polite when posting to any forum...
Those days are over here.

I was under the (wrong) impression that this was a help forum...but as it turns out, it is nothing more than a chit-chat box. Grr..!! I wonder if any of you *helpers* have noticed how many posts there are with ZERO replies?? Or maybe 1 useless reply? Grr..!! Ones that have been there for weeks??? Grr..!!

Apparently, if you're not in the *click* here, you don't get responses...which is not a good way to go about things if you want to have return customers at Lunarpages. I'd love to see stats on the percentage of customers renewing their accounts here after expiration.

My suggestion to any newbies here is:

Unless you have lots of time to waste, I wouldn't bother posting here. After posting here for almost 4 months & getting very little help or assistance, it would be my guess that this forum is weak & lame...& as close to useless as one can come.

Head for CodingForums, Webmaster Forum, Webmaster-talk...those are 3 I can think of that you will at least get a response from...& probably a helpful one at that.

Discontinue my subscription to this forum if you like...I won't be visiting here again (& it's doubtful I will renew my account here when it expires).
I'm sorry, but this place blows. Period.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2004, 11:59:59 AM »

Humble Dude -

Now that wasn't very "humble" of you, but you're entitled to your opinions.

I guess we'll leave it up to each individual to make the decision of whether this forum has been of value to them or not.

Not always does everyone know the answer to questions, or sometimes it just gets missed with the multitudes of posts that get generated.

Most of us here are customers just like you (we don't work for LP) and offer help here on our own time.  We are not so shallow that we have "clicks" but if that's the way you see it, then "oh well".

Since I take it you took things "personally" to not receiving the responses you were looking for, well that's very unfortunate.

I hope you can find the help you need elsewhere.

Take care and best wishes!
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2004, 12:09:30 PM »

Humble Dude, we try to answer every post that comes in here to the forums.  If I know the answer to the question being asked I make sure to respond as best I can.  I have even assisted you in the past with questions relating to your mailer script.  Also, please keep in mind that most of the users here also strive to help but may not know the answer to your question, so they would rather not fill the responses with meaningless posts.

Also, some of the forums here are looked over because of the few posts that are received there.  I apologize for my part if I have missed any of your posts, though I only see the previous one I assisted you with and two from today.  I at least hope that where you decide to find support from in the future will be able to assist you with any question and should the need ever arise, you can always seek assistance here
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2004, 12:30:27 PM »

Thanks for your comments.

Funny - I get a reply from a rant...& a thoughtful one at that. Lmao...

I don't necessarily take it *personally*, but I do find it to be very *clicky* in here. I fail to understand how the *click* is helpful if they don't let others in their *click*...especially those who might come here with a genuine interest in learning - as opposed to people coming here just looking for a *quick fix* to a problem they might be having...

I am only speaking from what I have experienced in other forums.

Thanks anyway, folks...

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2004, 01:11:58 PM »

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I don't necessarily take it *personally*


You sure could have fooled me, LOL!  Smile

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but I do find it to be very *clicky* in here. I fail to understand how the *click* is helpful if they don't let others in their *click*...especially those who might come here with a genuine interest in learning - as opposed to people coming here just looking for a *quick fix* to a problem they might be having...

I am only speaking from what I have experienced in other forums.


"Clicky" is when people are unwilling to let others into their realm, BUT we do NOT fit that definition (and anyone who reads all the threads/posts can plain-as-day see that).  Anyone who posts here has equal access and equal support as best as we can provide it.  Your ONE post not being answered has nothing to do with NOT being in the "click".  You best think about why you feel that way (I'm 46, I'm ornary, I don't work for LP, so I can talk to you this way ... oh yeah, my name ain't "Humble", LOL! Luff Ya ).

Anyway, everyone has to take some responsibility in learning certain things themselves.  We will help where we can, but we can't always, and surely can't do it all for you.  If you need that kind of help, then you have to just hire someone, or take a class at a computer learning center near you.

We don't feed you, we teach you how to feed yourself, but you have to at least know how to pick up the spoon.  We will also put bandaids on ya when you fall down and get a cut/scratch for that "quick fix".

If you are experiencing these unhappy results from all the forums you visit, then maybe you need to think about how you are "creating" what you are "receiving".

Anyway, if you only look at forum help in the way that you are, then you will never be satisfied in the answers you seek, because forums are there to assist with problems, NOT teach you step-by-step.  That you can get for FREE from doing a Google search ... there are TONS of help out there for learning things.

Also, where is your contribution to others?  You are a customer the same as most of us, so where have you been of help to anyone in a subject that you may know?  Hey, it can be even in just helping someone check their website to see if their DNS has propagated, or feedback on how their site looks (those type posts don't need any specific expertise to help with).

Anyway, before you cast stones, take a look at your own contributions and ask yourself if you've been of help to anyone.

Again, I DO NOT work for LP, I am a customer just like you and most of the help here on the forum are from other customers, too.  So, there is my "rant" as you so noted previously, LOL!  Luff Ya
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2004, 09:00:07 PM »

Humble Dude,

It is unfortunate that the questions you asked weren't answered as quickly as you would have liked. However, a lot of us are just fellow users who volunteer to help out. There is almost a friendly competition to answer the questions that we are able to answer, as quickly as possible. There have been many times when I would take the time to write a response and by the time I had submitted it, someone else had beaten me to it. We do not answer questions based on who asked, but on what is being asked.

I'm sorry you feel that our chatting is a negative thing. Chatting is something we do as we wait and check for incoming questions. Would you rather we sit and twiddle our thumbs while we wait? Our chat sessions draw us toward the forums more than we would go without them. That increases the likelihood that someone seeking help would get help quickly.

You claimed that you posted a question four months ago, but underneath your username it says: Joined: 24 Apr 2004. Today is 5-17-04. That's not even 4 weeks.

You are able to see the list of unanswered questions, but do you have any idea all the answers that have been answered? There is no link that shows that. The link that shows recent posts will only show posts since last visit, so that list will change.

It's simply a matter of whether you want to see the glass as half empty or half full.

Best wishes wherever you decide to go.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2004, 09:54:49 PM »

In reply to your thread's subject title ... here's the Dreamweaver Support Forum.  That forum may best serve you in helping you with specific questions you have regarding Dreamweaver:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/index.cfm?forumid=12

Good luck  Thumbs Up

Sorry we weren't able to help you.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2004, 10:15:53 PM »

I'd like to add (not going to go into the whole unanswered posts *click* nonsense.)
But....

I do not believe anyone on this forum is paid to post here. If you want absolute help that comes with your plan go to http://lunarpages.com and send support a ticket.

The staff and other inteligent members on here do it out of their time to help customers and other member's with misc problems.

No where else will you find such a large, supportive, and friendly community.

Don't get pissy just cause a few things went unanswered out of countless posts on this forum daily.

As an LP customer I'm happy to be able to come here and have a chance to have problems fixed without having to go through phone or email support. Although LP's email "ticket" support is really excellent and fast Thumbs Up . It's nice to have the option to come here first.

Again.... this community is through member's and staff taking time out of their schedual to come here and help, and of course shoot the breeze a little.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2004, 12:12:13 AM »

Well, this community is not large by any stretch of the imagination....
when members get into the millions or hundreds of thousands then that is large.
all other points are pretty valid.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2004, 12:15:02 AM »

Grr..!! My post isn't valid because I used the word "large" ??


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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2004, 04:43:02 AM »

Leigh:

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(I'm 46, I'm ornary, I don't work for LP, so I can talk to you this way ... oh yeah, my name ain't "Humble", LOL!  )

Well, gee...I'm 44, I don't work for LP, & you don't know ornary until you have met me...oh yeah, & *Humble* is a oxy-moron...I am anything but humble.

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If you are experiencing these unhappy results from all the forums you visit, then maybe you need to think about how you are "creating" what you are "receiving".

Ummm...the point was that I DON'T experience *unhappy* results in other forums.


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I have even assisted you in the past with questions relating to your mailer script.

Attempted to assist. I resolved the issue myself. Thanks for trying though. I do appreciate it.


TranzNDance

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I'm sorry you feel that our chatting is a negative thing.


I never stated or insinuated that chatting is a negative thing. I do plenty of it myself. But it does look kind of lame when people are coming here for assistance, get few, if any, helpful responses, & then find 16 replies to a question about nothing that turns into a conversation about nothing.

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It's simply a matter of whether you want to see the glass as half empty or half full.

This glass is half empty.


Leigh:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/index.cfm?forumid=12

This forum barely works...I'm not even sure it works at all after having spent 30 minutes yesterday typing a post that didn't make it to their board after submitting it.


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I do not believe anyone on this forum is paid to post here. If you want absolute help that comes with your plan go to http://lunarpages.com and send support a ticket.

Duhhh.

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No where else will you find such a large , supportive , and friendly community.

Check again.


Good day, all.......
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2004, 04:49:12 AM »

Oh, and...

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You claimed that you posted a question four months ago, but underneath your username it says: Joined: 24 Apr 2004. Today is 5-17-04. That's not even 4 weeks.

I registered a new username on 24 April 2004. All in all, have been here for approximately 4 months.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2004, 05:16:48 AM »

Here's a list of Dreamweaver forums I have found for you:

http://forum.dreamweaverwebmaster.com/
http://www.dwfaq.com/default.asp
http://www.tek-tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/0/lev3/31/pid/248
http://www.tek-tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/0/lev3/31/pid/770
http://www.dmxzone.com/index.asp?TypeId=9

These are just a few.  Here is a link to the google search that I used to find them in case you want to browse through it: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%2BDreamweaver+%2BMX+%2Bsupport+%2Bforum&btnG=Google+Search

Now, I must ask everyone to keep this thread on the topic at hand.  Each side has expressed their views.  The Dreamweaver forum is not a place to hash out differences.  Please create a thread in one of the non-support forums if you feel you must continue to make your ideas and counter-ideas known.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2004, 08:27:56 AM »

Hi Humble Dude,

In response to your original, original question, which I believe was another post & something about DW MX & PHP mail functions:

Yes, you can use PHP mail if you want. But if you want to create your forms in DW & use dynamic elements attached to data bindings, etc., you can also use cgi or you can mailto.

To use the mailto option just create your form and insert the required fields. Next highlight the form and enter in the *action* field on the property inspector:

mailto:your email address here.

Not such a big deal, eh? Hope that helps you out a bit, HD...


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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2004, 10:00:28 AM »

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Hi Humble Dude,

In response to your original, original question, which I believe was another post & something about DW MX & PHP mail functions:

Yes, you can use PHP mail if you want. But if you want to create your forms in DW & use dynamic elements attached to data bindings, etc., you can also use cgi or you can mailto.

To use the mailto option just create your form and insert the required fields. Next highlight the form and enter in the *action* field on the property inspector:

mailto:your email address here.

Not such a big deal, eh? Hope that helps you out a bit, HD...


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LOL, well you now then are resolved  Thumbs Up

Interesting that you put "My contribution...& a simple answer" in the Subject area of your above post (it shows up when I hit the "reply with quote") was a contribution to yourself, LOL.

I'm glad that you are finding results in other forums favorable. Maybe that's where you need to be then, if you're unhappy here.  Why do you come here if we do not supply you with the answers you need?

Someone from LP staff pointed out that you were also Netizen Dave (they know these things. Why did you sign up a new username?).  And you had the same gripes (which we defended ourselves quite nicely with proof even to back it up), here's the thread (scroll down to your post):

http://www.lunarforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12683&highlight=

When I do a search for all posts by you (type "Netizen Dave" in the "Author" section of "Search"), seems people are answering you, but looks like nothing will ever make you happy.

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As far as forums in general, I am not & have not ever been very impressed by any of them. They are basically no more than cliques - I think you either get replies - or you don't. I have posted twice to 7 different boards & have received 3 total replies to 2 posts- on all 4 boards.


Hmmm, as Netizen Dave you say that you are not receiving favorable results on ANY of the forums you visit, so are you now? And if you are then, like I said, it's best that you just get the help you need there, cuz you are just wasting your time/energy and our time/energy (since we have to constantly defend your accusations) posting here if you are unhappy with us.

Anyway, everyone can look at your posts (and the responses you had thereafter from members) and judge for themselves whether you are justified in your gripes.

Again, I hope that you can take an honest look at what you are "creating" to get the results that you are "receiving".

BTW, looking at all your posts, you're quite "ranty" yourself, LOL. Smile

Okay, I think I'll stop expending any more energy where it's not really doing any good or being very productive for me or you.

Like I said, good luck!  Thumbs Up
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