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koilagoon
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« on: August 15, 2006, 08:12:28 PM »

Hi everyone,

We have a new website up for pond supplies at http://www.rockymountainpond.com.

I was wondering if anyone could take a look at it and see if something is missing?  We are having sluggish sales, and it seems like we are not getting many visitors.  Could anyone make some recommendations on changes we may want to make, or what we can do?

I would appreciate any help.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2006, 08:21:30 PM »

First off, very nice site.
How long have you had it up?  It might just take time for it to be indexed fully.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2006, 08:43:50 PM »

Koilagoon, I see nothing wrong with the site visually, but when searching for "pond supplies" in Google, after 10 pages of many sites just like yours, yours is not there. You must work on submitting your site to search engines, and having html content pages that have ALL your keywords on them and linking to as many sites like yours and vice versa as possible. Until that happens along with several other search engine optimization tips you will not get the traffic you desire. You really have a nice site with ok prices it is just going to take some more work to get the page rankings up. There are several threads here in the forums about this as well as much info on the web. Good luck, I wish you the best !


Hope this was helpful !

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2006, 08:57:29 PM »

I agree with the others that your site looks fine, and RandyT gave good advice on what you might want to do to get more traffic to it.

Peruse the "Search Engine" section of these forums:

http://www.lunarforums.com/forum/index.php?board=15.0

As there's info on SEO there to hopefully help you.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2006, 08:58:21 PM »

I've never had an e-commerce site so take this for what it's worth but the site seems small. Either like it's very new or for whatever reason just not playing with the big boys whoever they are in the pond supply business.

I think you need a more business looking site. The forest tones don't say business to me. I'd try to make the site look bigger. Use a 100% width layout and put a lot more products, information, and reasons for a customer to buy from you on the front page.

The search engine thing is a whole other story ...
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2006, 08:59:07 PM »

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RandyT gave good advice on what you might want to do to get more traffic to it.




RandyT <-----needs to follow his own advice for his own site  LOL )


Thanks Leigh
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2006, 09:12:06 PM »

Have you considered signing up for AdWords and its related service at the other search engines? Of course it's not free like the organic listings but it will get your company name out there. I recently ordered from a company I discovered via AdWords and I liked the products so much that I even blogged about it, giving it free advertising.

While doing that, you should follow the advice above to improve the ranking of your site in the organic listing.
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2006, 10:11:26 PM »

Just to repeat some of what has been said earlier and perhaps add some more...

- depending on how "new" the site is, it might take people awhile to find it

- work on search engine submissions/optimization to get your site to show up earlier in results

- visit a few pond related forums, post constructive & helpful posts including a link to your site in your sig (provided it is allowed by the forum rules). DO NOT SPAM the forums, but rather participate a little bit and offer comments/suggestions... just happen to have the link to your site there so people begin to know it exists..

- promote your forums and post some helpful "how-to" articles... try and capture some of those people interested in building a pond but don't know where to start... give them a how-to on doing something, and a link to your on-line store to buy the supplies they need...

- Realize we're coming up on the end of the summer months... I'm not sure how much of a market their is for pond supplies at this time of year. And related to that, I'd be more likely to head down to local store and buy what I needed rather than purchasing items over the net for a project like this... of course, once I had the pond in place and was doing more upkeep/maintenance I might consider internet purchases more... still it would take some time before I decided to go with an on-line company a few states away rather than some place just down the street...

- look at competitor websites and their on-line shopping carts.. is there something on their site that is easier to follow than on your site? You want your site to stand out and be different, but at the same time it needs to be easy for people to find what they need on the site... if they can find it easier on a competitors site then it might be a strike against you... I'd start with local competitors and their sites before trying to tackle the larger sites...

personally, I like the colors... but it does seem to be a bit cookie-cutter so to speak in terms of layout/design... this in and of itself wouldn't turn me off, but it would make me more hesitant to get started using your site for purchases because it doesn't have that final "polish" I try and look for... of course, I think amazon suffers from that at times as well in my opinion, so take it for what it's worth...

good luck


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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2006, 12:04:37 PM »

Very nice site design.  I'm curious which eCommerce solution you are using.  Really, I'd like to know! 

Also, who designed it too?

I'm having many hits, but zero sales.  I've done a lot of SEO, but graphically it's not very good.  Amazon is going well though for me.

Here's some tips for SEO and getting visitors to your site visitors:

Visit http://www.seochat.com for some great tools and suggestions.

You may want to use search engine friendly URL's.  Instead of the following:

http://www.rockymountainpond.com/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=26

...it would be search engine friendly as (example) http://www.rockymountainpond.com/air-pumps.html? 

Many search engines do not like to follow dynamic pages such as PHP or ASP, so that can be a factor.  Also numeric page id's aren't friendly.  Instead, if you can, you would want it to have the name of the product and/or category of products.  You may not have much control over this without rewriting the code or using someone else's addon or whatever.

It can help quite a bit to exchange links with similar types of sites, ie gardening sites, landscaping sites, manufacturers of your stuff, etc.

Referencing your URL in forums in sites (see above) can help in SEO, but also people may see your page referenced and visit.  I have about half of my visitors coming from one site alone, better than Yahoo or Google via the ads that I've spent a fair amount of money on.

You could consider going with an Affiliate Program and pay people a small commision for sales that come from their site.  Also the affiliate links to your site so search engines may count that for you toward ranking too.

I'd highly suggest advertising via Google, but most importantly, use their Analytics which will tell all sorts of great stats.  It is fantastic!

Via your server, create a CRON job to run regularly to submit your sitemap to Google.  Here's the link: https://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/siteoverview?hl=en

Create a robots.txt to control which search engine spiders crawl your site and which pages they crawl.  This helps a lot because there are many pages (and graphics, sounds, etc) that you would not want them to crawl.

Advertise on online gardening or Fung Shui sites and in local online newspapers, ie Chicago Sun Times, in the gardening section or whatever.  People may think that your advertising there you'd be more reputable.  Also, go to conventions and such. 

Activity is good!
It may not be a bad idea to add a Forum to answer questions.  This is good for SEO because it shows activity, which is very important.  It's also good because your prospective customers like to be able to communicate with people from there.  It shows you know what you're talking about and that you're not some fly-by-night small operation that will fold in a couple months.  Make sure you are active on your forum and, if needed, you may need to have conversations with yourself until real people start communicating there.  This could singley be the best thing you could do for SEO is to have a very active forum.

Blogging can be helpful too.   It shows activity and can help people get to know you.  It just may not be considered by some to be very "professional".

I hope this was helpful. 

Shea
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2006, 12:06:10 PM »

Also you should have the link in your signature for this forum also.....every little bit helps!
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2006, 06:15:12 PM »

As others have said, you have a great looking site. Your problem is not enough traffic. Of course, that's the real problem with most sites, so don't feel bad.

The first thing you'll want to do is get a good handle on your traffic statistics, because you'll need some indication as to what is working and what is not (as they say, you can't improve what you can't measure). You could use the free Webalizer or Analytics that comes in cPanel. But, I would suggest trying to register for Google Analytics. It's free and the data analysis is better.

I don't want to repeat what others have said as ways to get traffic, but one tip I'd give...when it comes to organic search engine traffic, the most important factor in my experience, is getting some high-ranked sites to link to yours. While you do need the right keywords, having high-quality links count more.

Would you consider your site local or global? In my humble opinion, when I see your site, I think local. I don't think I'd order pond supplies online. I'd go to my local home improvement center. So, maybe you could get some well-targeted traffic by advertising locally.

Just another aside.... I see your site has only been in existence since May 15 of this year. It takes a while to build traffic, so don't give up. It's a long road to good traffic. Now, how'd I know how long your site's been around? Check out your Alexa stats. Bookmark this. Check regularly.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2006, 06:48:35 PM »

Thanks for that Alexa link oxsley,,,,,,,,, altho my site traffic sucks !!  Sad



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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2006, 09:04:20 AM »

Hey everyone, thanks for all of the advice.

Just some more info:

We use google analystics and google adwords.  I think the major problem with adwords is that even using their system of optimization, we cannot even get it to use $100/month (even though we want to).  The site is new.

For the one who asked:

We use CubeCart for the backend of the site.
My friend and I designed the site for the company (it took us about 2 weeks total time)..


Thanks guys.
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