We have a mailman mail list we've used on LP for he past >4 years.  This list has less than 150 email addresses on it but I'll use 150 as an example.  Members of the list can send messages to the list, reply to messages, etc.  By "sending limits", does LP count one email going to the list as 1 (1 to the list) or 150 (1 to each email address on the list)?

We have been receiving the "over 400 messages per hour" emails, yet, there have only been 4 or 5 messages sent to the email list at the time in question.  We have never encountered this before, just within the last few weeks.

LP support has been of no help.

OK, I'm also involved with this particular issue, and I don't understand why we would have been OK up until Sunday afternoon and then start getting these messages. And I'm fairly certain that we've had more than 2 messages go out to the mailing list in an hour and not received a warning. What would happen if we had a mailing list with over 400 people? And doesn't that blow the idea of not sending out more than 20 e-mail in a minute out of the water?

This has been a bit of a headache and I've been working with LP support since Sunday, but no one has been able to give me a straight answer why this is happening and what I can do to fix it. I don't understand why as a paid service LP can't do something that Google Groups does far better for free.

I use phplist for one email list I send that does not allow discussion on the list -- it is just one way. I don't think there is any way to allow for discussion on phplist. Please correct me if I am wrong. What about Dadalist? Can that be used as a traditional 2-way mailing list or is it more like phplist than mailman?

Thanks,

Dona

So do you have a recommendation (other than yahoogroups) for a discussion email list with less than 200 members that very occasionally sends more than 2 emails out in an hour? At this point I've put moderation on all members' addresses until I figure out how to not have my personal email disabled.

I am a little frustrated and offended since not only am I paying out of pocket for 3 volunteer not-for-profit organizations' web hosting & 2 associated mailing lists, now I'm having to figure out how to not get my personal email address blocked.  I understand the reasoning. I just wish there was a way for you to know the bad guys vs the good guys.

Dona

Aren't email-based discussion groups so 1999? Especially now that you have to be careful about your email usage, wouldn't a forum (e.g., SMF) be much better? No email (routinely) involved -- just sign on to the forum and read/write. Even if your members have very slow connections, you can still use forums in low-bandwidth mode (no graphics).

My client on a Lunarpages account has also been receiving these over sending limit notices, each Friday for the last two weeks. We do NOT have mailing lists on that account.

We have taken every precaution, and more, regarding form scripts, POP account passwords, account passwords, etc., etc., etc....and still received that second notice.

It appears that the shared server this account is on may have been accessed by hackers, and not necessarily through this account. I hope Lunarpages will exercise due diligence on this and make absolutely sure it's not happening due to reasons far outside the control of individual account holders.

Incidentally, this is the same server that went down twice in a month, for days, taking down all websites.

We've been very, very patiently trying to explain in our discussions with customer support that the standard list of precautions we always receive when asking for help on this are maintained.

Spoofing and unauthorized mail server use is a frustrating problem for all of us, and it may be natural (although short-sighted) for the hosting company to assume it's the customer's fault, but I hope you'll use this information to look a littler further.

Clearly this is a recurring issue for Lunarpages.

Thanks for anything anyone might do to help with this.

And, if there are any bullet-proof form scripts out there that Lunarpages can recommend for use, we'll appreciate knowing. We rebuilt all forms not so long ago with TFMail to meet previous Lunarpages recommendations. Is that script now obsolete?

Thank you.

i use and TFMail  and i am satisfied

I fear that i am about to run into this problem.   I send a monthly church newsletter email with a BCC distribution of 120 addresses.  This is under the 200 to 300 emails per hour unless the list gets longer but i am not sure how the 20 per minute fits into the picture. 

The php code reflects my php/sql skill, it is very basic & simple; an sql query of the membership to find all the email addresses followed by building the header and message, and the php mail() command.  It has been working fine but based on what i have read here i am not sure it will work at for the Nov newsletter?  The full distribution is used in a single email.  Does this result in more than 20 per minute?

Thanks for the help