Web Hosting Forum | Lunarpages


*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?



Login with username, password and session length
February 09, 2012, 06:52:26 PM

Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Forwarders and yahoo addresses  (Read 1034 times)
fstevens
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 2


« on: February 25, 2010, 07:30:57 PM »

The forwarder page says "There are known issues with Yahoo forwarders. If you choose to forward your email to a Yahoo address, you run the risk of blacklisting the server. If this happens, your forwarders will be disabled permanently."  Our small non-profit (see us at www.thecathouse.org) needs to set up a forwarder that would include several volunteers who have yahoo addresses.  Is this warning still applicable, or is it out of date.   I don't really want to test it and risk disabling all our forwarders.  My only workaround has been to ask people to set up gmail accounts that are forwarded to their yahoo addresses, then use the gmail address in the forwarder.  Anyone have any thoughts/knowledge about this?

Thanks,
Faye
Logged
DEddleman
Spacescooter Operator
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 34


Elite!


« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 09:35:26 PM »

In my experiences, the issues with forwarders stems from people who have a real e-mail account on there but don't check it, instead choosing to forward all mail to an external account (in this case, Yahoo). When the mail is forwarded (this includes spam, the key focus of this issue), our server appears to be the one sending the mail initially, as any prior servers that sent it are stripped out. So when spam does get sent over, it looks like our server is the one sending it, and we are labeled as spammers. Due to Yahoo!'s tight-fisted policy of blacklisting and near-refusing to even listen to unlisting requests, we suffer as a result.
Logged

MrPhil
Berserker Poster
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5083



« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 08:26:51 AM »

If Yahoo! is going to be so anal about blacklisting LP servers, just emplace a ban on forwarding to Yahoo!. That, or force some serious spam control on any account forwarding, especially to Yahoo!. Perhaps run Spam Assassin on forwarded emails, and refuse to send anything suspicious until the user signs on to their LP email account and manually forwards the email (overruling SA). LP might send an "empty envelope" to the forwarding address, to let the user know that something is waiting back at LP.

It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but until governments get serious about treating spammers as cyberterrorists (shoot on sight), this problem will continue. Of course, the easy and proper solution is to charge postage for all emails (say, $0.10 per 1500 bytes), so it becomes prohibitively expensive to spam. People with compromised (pwned or zombie) machines used to spew spam will start paying attention to virus and spyware scanning once they receive their first $3000 email postage bill! ISPs would need to be required to negotiate a monthly email cap on customer accounts so that if your PC is compromised, the financial damage is limited. Oh well, I'm not going to hold my breath.
Logged

fstevens
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 2


« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 01:15:48 PM »

We've been blacklisted by Microsoft (MSN/hotmail/live addresses) in the past, and it hasn't been that hard to get off their list (of course, we've had to do this twice, so let's hope the second time sticks).  We've had issues with others as well, and have been able to straighten it out.  Is the issue that Yahoo is so hard to deal with that we shouldn't even try?  It is a real pain to ask our volunteers to set up, say, a gmail account to use in the forwarder, and then they forward the gmail account to their yahoo account. 

Is it possible to get on a yahoo approved sender list in advance so that forwarders can be used?  I'm usually one to just try something and ask forgiveness later, so I'm tempted to add a yahoo address to a forwarder just to see what happens, but I don't really want to deal with the mess if (as threatened) all our forwarders are disabled.  Why would LP disable all our forwarders because yahoo blocks email to their account?

Faye
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to: