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« on: May 04, 2004, 01:02:11 PM » |
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Hi all,
I'm very new at this, so forgive me if this is too obvious, but I'm wondering if it is possible to create a site in one subdomain using FrontPage and in a different subdomain using Dreamweaver. Is there anything special I need to do, or be careful about? I just got my site and was going to install the FrontPage extensions right off the bat, but I know my wife will want to create a site in a sub-domain using Dreamweaver.
Thanks,
Ron
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Rick_E
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2004, 06:31:58 AM » |
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Hi,
The main problem for FrontPage arises if the .htaccess file in the home directory of your web (the public_html folder) is rewritten when creating the sub domain wife.mydomain.com. FrontPage has special lines it likes to see in the file.
I think that creating a subdomain in the LunarPages control panel does not rewrite the .htaccess when creating a subdomain file so you may be OK.
I don't know what Dreamweaver does with the .htaccess file when publishing, if anything. Maybe someone else has more information on this.
Note that the similar terms "subdomain" and FrontPage "subweb" are different. A subdomain is a web address such as wife.mydomain.com which is created in the control panel and that points to a folder on your site.
A FrontPage subweb is also in a folder however it is mainly a way to have a separately administered web site, sometimes with different authoring permissions and different password protection.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2004, 06:53:10 AM » |
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I don't know what Dreamweaver does with the .htaccess file when publishing, if anything. Maybe someone else has more information on this.
Dreamweaver doesn't (need to) do anything with .htaccess. You don't even need to download it until you want to edit it directly in DW.  |
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ronmsf2
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2004, 01:40:09 PM » |
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The main problem for FrontPage arises if the .htaccess file in the home directory of your web (the public_html folder) is rewritten when creating the sub domain wife.mydomain.com. FrontPage has special lines it likes to see in the file..
Where can I find out more about .htaccess? When is it created... what is it required for, etc?
Note that the similar terms "subdomain" and FrontPage "subweb" are different. A subdomain is a web address such as wife.mydomain.com which is created in the control panel and that points to a folder on your site.
A FrontPage subweb is also in a folder however it is mainly a way to have a separately administered web site, sometimes with different authoring permissions and different password protection.
Thanks for the clarification. I did not know there was a difference. If I publish a site to subdomain such as "project.mydomain.com", do I have to make it a subweb within FrontPage? Thanks for all your helpful comments. Ron |
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ronmsf2
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2004, 01:42:36 PM » |
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Wow! This missed that. I've read through the post you referred to. It sounds like it was a hot topic. I appreciate the heads up. Ron |
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Rick_E
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2004, 04:17:51 PM » |
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Hi, The .htaccess file is used for configuration purposes by the Apache web server and is located in the home folder of your web site, usually the public_html folder. It is created when your web site is set up. If you install the FrontPage extensions, FrontPage installs it's own version of the .htaccess file. That's why you should be careful to not mess too much with the .htaccess file if you're using the FrontPage extensions. You can't see this file from within FrontPage even though it is there. You will need to use an FTP program such as Windows Explorer, cute FTP, or the File Manager with the LunarPages control panel if you want to see it. The htaccess file is commonly used to apply password protection to a folder (but not if using FrontPage). Here is more information about the file: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/htaccess.htmlIf you want to publish to a subdomain using FrontPage, you do not necessarily have to make it into a FrontPage subweb, however you do not publish to project.mydomain.com. Just include the files in the /project folder as they are part of your web site. project.mydomain.com is just another way to get to the folder without using the address mydomain.com/project. You publish as usual to http://mydomain.com. The time you may need a FrontPage subweb would be if you want to password protect the folder or if you want to allow a different FrontPage author to have publishing rights in the /project folder only. In that case the new FrontPage author would publish to the web at http://mydomain.com/project. Using Dreamweaver you wife would send the files to the mydomain.com/project folder. Re: what is a single user? I suspect that if you place some Dreamweaver files for your wife in the folder at mydomain.com/project, and if she is not creating a whole separate web site, LunarPages may consider you are still a single user and may not have an issue with that. On the other hand, if your wife wants to create a separate web site, she may need to purchase a separate account. A LunarPages employee may offer clarification on this. |
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ronmsf2
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2004, 06:01:11 PM » |
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Rick,
Thanks for all the helpful information. Much appreciated.
Ron
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2004, 07:13:35 PM » |
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Hi, Actually, family sites are allowed, so you and your spouse and children could have subdomain off the same account if they are family sites. The TOS is intended for those attempting to provide their clients and friends with free or paid webspace, it is not intended to prevent a family unit from sharing an account. You can view Max's post on this issue at: http://www.lunarforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10207As for Dreamweaver, it does not write or use the .htaccess as noted above by tranzndance, so if you do not install extensions into the subdomain that will be used by Dreamweaver, I do not see any issue that would arise from using it. It is FrontPage and the stuff it will do to the .htaccess and other files that would be the issue. Thanks |
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2004, 08:11:00 AM » |
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Hi... Thanks for the clarification on both issues. I'm glad to hear that family sites fall within the TOS. Makes me much more comfortable with LunarPages. So far my experience has been great. Lots of friendly help, and everything is working without a problem. I can see I've got lots to learn though, but with all the help here, hopefully it won't be too painful Thanks again... Ron |
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TranzNDance
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2004, 08:16:06 AM » |
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Does that mean that my siblings could have space on my site?  |
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2004, 08:18:20 AM » |
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PS -- Just a follow-up one the FrontPage issue for those that might be interested:
I installed the FrontPage extensions in my primary domain. At that point FrontPage accessed the site without a problem.
Then I created a subdomain using CPanel, and installed the FrontPage extensions in the subdomain. I didn't know CPanel gave the option of which domain/sub-domain to install extensions in, (shows how new I am...). Anyway, after that, FrontPage could not access the main domain, so I reinstalled the FrontPage extensions in the main in the main domain. Now everything seems to be working fine. I was also able to publish directly to the subdomain from FrontPage.
Thanks everyone for your help.
Ron
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2004, 09:24:20 AM » |
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Yes, you should not install the extensions to your subdomain because as far as FrontPage is concerned, that folder is just another folder.
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Rick_E
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2004, 09:27:38 AM » |
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Correct, you should not install the FrontPage extensions to your subdomain folder. As FrontPage is concerned, that folder is just another folder in the main web site. The subdomain http://project.mydomain.com is just an alternate web address to get to the /project folder. |
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