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« on: January 26, 2003, 03:27:00 AM »

Does anyone have any good recommendations for image protection? Right now I have the right click disabled but that is easy to get around. I am have looked at several html encryption programs but I have never heard of any of them. I have also looked at Artiscope’s site that looks good but the program that looks the best is too expensive. Any suggestion would be appritiated.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2003, 04:35:00 PM »

HTML encryption won't protect your images, and as anyone can take a screenshot by pressing Print Screen, then pasting it into any image editing application, you can never truly be protected.

A decent way I've found is to put text in the middle of the picture, or a watermark. If you put it around the sides, people can cut it off.

Digital watermarks are available, so you can prove someone stole your image. You can search www.google.com for more information.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2003, 12:10:00 PM »

if you don't want to take the measures that stephan has mentioned (watermarks) then essentially you can't stop people from stealing your images, just prevent them.

i personally don't even care for the disable right click deal because it really just annoys me if i accidently right click, the alert box pops up, or if i want to open a link in a new window. and it wouldn't stop me if i did want to steal someones work anyway, which i wouldn't.

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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2003, 07:32:00 AM »

Shift and left click opens a link in a new window.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2003, 07:54:00 AM »

go figure...
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2003, 10:18:00 PM »

The right click option is fine for people with no web experience and in most cases will stop them.
However Web/Graphic designers use programs like Snag it, which can steal your graphic even if you have it protected it.
I suggest adding (C)copyright/year/your name across part of the image.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2003, 10:34:00 PM »

"The right click option is fine for people with no web experience..."

 And that is about all. All you have to do is hit "select all" in IE, and you can copy the whole page in about 2 seconds. I do that once in a while and then email the page to the site to express my displeasure with that tactic.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2003, 11:08:00 PM »

Don't forget that you can also retrieve the images out of your temporary internet files. If someone wants your image bad enough, they're going to get it.

In many of the graphics programs, there's a feature that allows you to add "Creator Information". This allows you to add such information as:
Title image, Artist Name, Copyright, Description, Image Created and Last modified.

You may want to see if you're graphics program has that, and if you think that someone is taking your images and using them on thier website, you would have a way of proven they are yours, if they are your original work.

I haven't checked to see how easy it would be for someone to modify that information. My thinking is that most people don't look for that.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2003, 11:31:00 PM »

You can just press the print screen button on the keyboard.

You can change the extra information using Paintshop Pro from www.jasc.com
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2003, 02:47:00 AM »

I like the idea of putting in the author info.  It seems like it is very easy to change, though.  You don't need anything special.  I used Windows Explorer, navigated to one of my pictures, right clicked and chose properties.  Go to the summary tab - there is a gazillion things you can add to the properties, and all fields are fully editable.

I really don't want my pictures hijacked either.  I'm a pretty good photographer, and I have some pretty good safari photos on my site.  I think the photos are one of the things that make the site attractive, and I took every one of the pictures myself.  It would irritate me alot if other safari operators could use my pictures on their websites.

Even though maybe not foolproof, are their tools or techniques that at least would make it harder for pictures to be hijacked?

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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2003, 08:58:00 AM »

You can disable "hotlinking" in the Control Panel.

You can add text to the bottom of each picture.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2003, 11:42:00 AM »

Putting a copyright notice across the face of your image will reduce its utility to others, but can also reduce the utility to you.

Digital watermarks are for jpeg-type images (like a landscape or a portrait); they aren't so useful for gif-type images (like cartoons, logos, buttons, etc).

Including propietary "owner" information within the file might work if others are using compatible software, download the image, and check the owner information.  But it wouldn't slow down the use of your images, since visitors to the thief's site won't be checking this information.

Those who want to steal just one image will probably do "save image as..." in their browser, and I don't think there's any way to stop that.

Hotlink prevention only works if the thief links to your image from your own site, but he will probably take the image with him, rather than leave such an obvious trail behind him.

If you are dealing with wholesale theft (downloading an entire page, or collection of pages), then you could try this script:

modified "bad-bot" script blocks site downloads:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum13/1823.htm

The only change you would need to make would be to break the line coded here:
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print HTACCESS ("SetEnvIf Remote_Addr \^$remaddr\$ getout \# $date $usragnt\n");

...so the "# $date..." stuff is on a new line in the .htaccess file, or just deleted the "#" and the characters that follow.

It's been working fairly well for me.

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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2003, 12:32:00 AM »

Meh.

Right click isnt that good at all to protect your image.
Print Screen, disable javascript are two easy turn around. As is checking your temp files for the picture in question as was mentionned above.

You could install a digital watermark plugin in your version of ps or psp (http://www.digimarc.com/)
that might help, but if you're just a starting artist and you dont think plenty of people will steal your pictures, it might be spending money and not seeing much of a result on it.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2003, 11:29:00 AM »

If someone is using your images without permission, the law is on your side.  Fire off a friendly e-mail letting them know that if the image is not removed from their site, you will take legal action.  This will do it most of the time.  Since you have the original negatives of any pictures you've taken, your case if full-proof.  If someone is stealing your computer-generated art work, you should keep a copy of your original .PSD (if using photoshop) that has all the layers intact to show that you did the original artwork.  If it means enough to you that you're willing to take legal action for it and you have either the negatives or original work file, the case is yours.  As an added incentive, copyright infringement carries something like a $150,000.00 penalty.  That's usually enough to make people take down your image.

Having people steal your images can't be prevented, but having them do it twice can.    "[Wink]"
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2003, 02:14:00 AM »

IMHO trying to protect images from being taken is a waste of time - and furthermore annoys the casual surfer, which is something one does NOT want to do. If a user is just wanting to save the image to his HD so s/he can make it their desktop wallpaper it is annoying for them to find no-right-click popups etc.

What's more one does not even have to go to the trouble of searching the cache or pressing print-screen as has been mentioned here. With the latest versions of IE all one needs to do is drag the image into the address bar and Hey Presto, it's yours.

So, trying to stop people taking images is going to piss off your visitors meaning they might not come back and they are going to get your images anyway - lose - lose.

The copyright thing/sueing people is obviously the route to take if you have a problem with other web sites stealing your graphics, but the casual Geocities homepage really doesn't matter. If people want to take graphics off of my site I accept there is little I can do about it and I don't really mind, because it takes more than a few graphics to make a good website (or at least in my own case I know that's not the reason people visit).

About the Hot Linking thing... I have used that before and had problems with it - users (and myself) found that when one arrives from another site none of the images will display because the referer is not in ones own domain name. Naturally first impressions are important - and seeing all the graphics screwed doesn't give a good first impression. Anyone else had this trouble or know a way around it?
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