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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2009, 07:52:00 PM »

The server was audited and the driver is there, although I'm not certain if some people require a different driver than what is being provided:

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 694K Apr 25  2009 mysql-connector-java-5.1.7-bin.jar

This is in the path /usr/java/jdk*/jre/lib/ext/ although some staff might not be familiar with the path for these shared JDBC drivers.

When I replied to your post here in another thread, I checked the server after you mentioned it as being the JDBC driver and should have came back to that thread to indicate I had done so afterward. I apologize if this then resulted in a very long discussion on the ticket system and details beyond the scope of the driver replacement itself.

Of note, very few staff in our system have the access to re-add or fix any drivers or components on shared systems, but I do have such access.

Thanks.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2009, 12:48:36 AM »

As far as importance of issues, please be aware that supervisors do go through the support queue watching for common issues which may indicate a service on a particular server is down which would affect all customers on the server. Those issues are taken as highest priority and handled as quickly as possible. Be sure the subject line of your ticket gives a good clue to your issue such as "Site down" or "FTP authentication error" so it can be spotted easily.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2009, 06:21:43 AM »

I agree that customers should not have the last word in setting the priority on a ticket, either through picking a priority or forcing an escalation. While I don't have any access to the ticket queue (I'm only a customer myself), I have seen plenty of forum posts with subject lines URGENT! EMERGENCY! END OF THE WORLD! HELLLLLLP! and the question was "how do I change the background color on such and such a page?". People are greedy and self serving, or have no sense of proportion, and will do stupid things like that, so it should be up to the support staff to determine priority. You don't let patients run an Emergency Room, coming in with a headache and demanding priority on a CAT Scan. You let a triage nurse evaluate incoming patients and decide who needs to be seen first.

Now, if support actually lacks a way to set priorities, and for Political Correctness reasons is treating every cut finger and shotgun blast as the same priority, well, that would be stupid. I hope there's some way to flag serious issues (server down, for example), based on the sound judgment of staff (or supervisors), and get to the most critical items first. As less critical requests (how to change a color) age, their priority should tick upwards so that they eventually are gotten to.

The ticket system should be fixed so that bumping a ticket by submitting two replies in a row doesn't result in being sent to the end of the queue (penalized). Why can't the system use the timestamp of the first reply in a string of replies? That is, when adding a reply to the queue, check if this is two replies in a row. If so, use the older reply's timestamp (keep the actual newer timestamp for documentation purposes, but use a hidden timestamp for setting priority). It's silly to force people to log on to a helpdesk system and edit an existing ticket in order to add new information, when they could more easily just send a new reply.

Finally, LP doesn't seem to do a good job of informing its customers about what's going on. I see a lot of forum posts complaining about not hearing anything for many hours on end (12 -- 24 -- 36...). Naturally, the assumption is that the ticket has fallen through the cracks, and sometimes it turns out that has happened. Customers would be much more comfortable if LP guaranteed a next response of some kind within X hours (possibly depending on current support load and priority of the ticket). It doesn't have to be a fix in 4 hours, just some indication that the problem is being worked on. Couldn't there be a timer that pops up a (partially prefilled) email for the tech or supervisor, where they could fill in a few words giving the status, and send it off? That would be very reassuring to customers and keep them happier (and not clogging the ticket system and forums). For the ticket queue system, this status update would not normally count as a helpdesk response (unless the tech asks for information, and marks it as a response).
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2009, 07:37:32 AM »

Some wise words there MrPhil.  I agree that if you allow customers to prioritize you will usually get mostly top priority tickets.  When I worked support we allowed prioritization and saw mainly urgent tickets.  But it gives you a place to start - you know that if a customer puts a "normal" priority on a ticket, well it's definitely not urgent.  The important thing is that someone monitored the queue and triaged every ticket (your ER example is a good one).  It's then very easy to tell when someone is bleeding to death (my site is down) or has a headache (need help with my background color).  It did not involve much time to do this and I can't understand why any support org doesn't do the same.  When my sites are down I cannot wait 9 hours for a response, I just can't.  If someone had looked at my ticket when it first came in they could have checked and saw I wasn't lying and could have bumped me up over the "background color" issue.  That's the frustrating thing here - no prioritization at all! 
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2009, 08:01:14 AM »

Also meant to mention in my previous post: the feedback@lunarpages.com is a joke.  I've used it several times and might have well sent my feedback into a black hole for all the good it does.
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« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2009, 08:15:44 AM »

While I think a prioritization method would be helpful for tickets, it seems to me that the entire ticketing system is geared to queue management not problem resolution. I often get the feeling that the people dealing with tickets would just as soon clear a ticket from the queue as to actually put some effort into investigating a problem and resolving it. This seems evident as tickets are often requeued asking for information that has already been provided or that is not required to solve an issue. Similarly many ticket response seemed to be canned based on reading a few keywords in the first few sentences of a ticket and the response makes it evident that the entire ticket was not read.
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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2009, 08:22:21 AM »

I totally agree - I can't tell you how many times I've gotten responses that make it clear the ticket wasn't really read.  Maybe if everyone sends such feedback to the feedback email they'll realize there's a problem.  One person giving feedback seems to be ignored but there's strength in numbers.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2009, 04:34:11 AM »

On this issue:

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Also meant to mention in my previous post: the feedback@lunarpages.com is a joke.  I've used it several times and might have well sent my feedback into a black hole for all the good it does.

Anything directed to that address, or submitted to the feedback desk via the support site is sent directly to Lunarpages supervisors and feedback staff for review, so everything that gets sent there does get read and reviewed.  (both positive and negative praise, depending on the situation at hand). 

As far as situations where somebody is asking for information that has already been given, you can submit those to feedback@lunarpages.com too - describing the situation at hand, and the problem - so that the issues with that being done, if it is being done, can be rectified to.  If it makes you feel better, you could even submit them to me here via a PM - and I'll guarantee that somebody goes over the issue with the tech in question, so it doesn't happen again. 

Lunarpages prides itself on being able to take the feedback it receives to make a better service for the customer.  If there is any issue your unhappy with, please feel free to report it - so we can review it one on one with you, so that it doesn't happen again.  Also, as always if there's anything else I can do to help - you know where to reach me too. Very Happy

Thank you all for your feedback, it is greatly appreciated.
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