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Hans L
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« on: June 13, 2008, 07:04:32 PM »

Hello:

I have the basic web hosting plan, with one main domain and 3 subdomains.  I have, after reading and reading on this site, absolutely no idea of how to set up a website (in spite of being rather computer/internet savvy).

I would like to use a fourth subdomain (that is, a totally new domain name) for my website.  I plan to use KompoZer to create my web pages.

So, my question is (help!!!), how do I set up, or where do I find info how to set up, a website (and its structure) hosted by LunaPages within my basic web hosting plan?

Thank you!

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2008, 10:49:47 PM »

I guess the real question I have is this: would you be willing to use HTML? I just looked at the project page for KompoZer. The project seems dead. If you can learn how to code in HTML though, you won't need to rely on WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) programs.

If you are willing to learn HTML, I would suggest the following three URLs:

The first link is an introductory tutorial to HTML or HyperText Markup Language. The second link is a tutorial in properly implementing the newer standard, (X)HTML or Exetended HyperText Markup Language. The third link is an introductory tutorial in CSS or Cascading Style Sheets. Together, they form the basis of current web design.

Also, you'll need a good text editor, such as Notepad++ or Notepad2. If you use Linux, a lot of different options exist. I just use gEdit. For Mac, I recommend paid-for software. TextMate is one of the best products I've ever had the pleasure of using. A free editor for Mac would be TextWrangler. These are, in my opinion, the best editors I've seen to highlight code and help you spot errors.

If you decide you want to go with a WYSIWYG program, there are many options out there. Dreamweaver by Adobe produces some of the most standard-compliant code I've seen. Frontpage by Microsoft was terrible when I last used it, but I've heard that it's cleaned up its act a bit. I believe your hosting plan even comes with a tool called PageMason to help you build a site. You could also just search for WYSIWYG web design programs. Or, you can continue to use KompoZer, but as I mentioned before, I suspect the project is dead. I may be proved wrong though.

After that, you have the matter of connecting to your account to upload the files via FTP (File Transfer Protocol). This is a fairly easy process. For Windows I use WinSCP and FileZilla. On Linux, most GUIs have built in FTP browsers. You just need to type ftp://username@server/ into your file manager's address bar and you should gain access to your directory structure on lunarpages. On Mac, I would recommend Transmit (paid) or Cyberduck (free, but they take donations).

Once you've used your FTP credentials to gain access to your account from your FTP program, you just drag all of the files that make up your website into the public_html folder. (NB: Whatever you want to be available on the site must be under the public_html folder.) I believe that lunarpages uses directories under public_html to manage sub-domains, so you put the files for each sub-domain under their respective directory.

Hopefully I've answered your questions. If there's anything that I need to explain more, please tell me.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 08:36:30 PM »

Vitalian, thanks so much for the extensive answer.  I know i have a few more questions, but I want to study your answer a little before I ask them.

Best regards,

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 07:27:26 AM »

Vitalian, as I think I mentioned, I have one main domain and three subdomains.  I would like another domain (and will acquire it) for the website.  Lets call it "website.com").

So, when you say "After that, you have the matter of connecting to your account to upload the files via FTP (File Transfer Protocol).", do you mean that I use (in my case) FileZilla to upload my webpage files to "website.com"?  If that is true, do I create the folder "public_html" there?  How do I do that? (And how do I password-protect my website so only I can upload files?)

And I assume that the answer to the creation of the "public-html" folder will also answer my question how I create the website structure, that is, the various pages. Or ...?

As you can see, I am not at all clear over the nuts and bolts of this process, although I do understand most of what you told me in your very extensive message (for which I thank you again).

Regards,

Hans L

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 12:13:23 PM »

The way that lunarpages sets their file system up is...odd. At least to me. You will actually connect to your main domain in order to upload files.

Your file structure will be something like:

your_filesystem\
    public_html\
        .htaccess
        index.html
        sub_domain1.com\
        sub_domain2.com\
        sub_domain3.com\
        website.com\


So, when you connect to your main domain through FileZilla using the username and password Lunarpages provided you with (only you can access your files unless you add more users), you will navigate below public_html. All the files for your main domain go in here. When you navigate further down into website.com, you would then place the entire website structure for website.com in this folder.

So...if I even made sense at all in the last paragraph, tell me if you don't understand something. Always happy to help Very Happy
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2008, 03:39:24 PM »

OK...I went and signed myself up for a Lunarpages account to host a few sites I've wanted to get up.  Happy Happy Joy Joy

So, I'm now able to help you a bit better. To update what I said in the last post, the add-on domains and sub-domains will have certain names and won't actually have the rest of the domain stuff tagging along. As an example, I added an add-on domain justmyrandom.info. The folder is called justmyrandom. I also have a subdomain called testing for my main site. The folder is called testing, but the URL is http://testing.thanatesa.net/.

And, for the icing on the cake: http://justmyrandom.info/tutorials/lp/filezillaftp/  Mmm Coffee

The location of that tutorial is subject to change, but I'll leave it there till I get a CMS in place.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2008, 04:33:02 PM »

Oh boy, Vitalian, you probably did this in 5 minutes.  Will take me a while to comprehend.  I think I have created a ftp site (or whatever it is called).  I'll check tomorrow.

Unfortunately, my month-long vacation went mostly to garden and house work, not much computer work (as I had planned).  Starting to work tomorrow again, but fortunately, I work at home (I am a translator), so I can get a few hours in on my own computer stuff).  I will check my ftp site tomorrow evening.

Thanks for letting me know of your endevours.  I just looked at your tutorial.  It was a little fast, so I have to look again.

Regards,

Hans L
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2008, 09:06:33 AM »

Word Press is good to get you going.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2008, 06:55:55 AM »

I can't believe I never responded to this. Yes, the tutorial does go a bit fast. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get the timing right in the software I used. It actually took me three recordings to even get the screen shots correct. The entire thing was a few hours.

Although, as WesiteGuy recommended, WordPress is a great way to start a website, using a CMS can be limiting in the future if you ever want to do something highly customized.

Hope everything is working out well for you.
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