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« on: May 30, 2007, 12:15:58 AM »

Hello, For the first time I  am using dreamveaver to design my website. I donot know where to put in key words for search engine purposes.It was mentioned in the *Help Tutorial* to do this in label description.Can anybody be kind enough to advise where Can I  find this label description pages in dreamveaver or where  to fill up these key words for search engine submission?

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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2007, 11:31:57 AM »

Dreamweaver has dialogue boxes to insert these but it is easier just to write in code view. In Dreamweaver's Code view (not the design view) in the fifth line find this:

Code:
<title>index</title>

Replace just the word "index" with your page title, something like:

Xuankong | Chinese Astronomy

The page title is a good place for keywords. Use ten words if you really need them, but don't repeat keywords. Each page's title should be as unique as possible from all your other pages.

Just below the page title tag, insert these:

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<meta name="description" content="Sentence summarizing the topic" />
<meta name="keywords" content="xuankong chinese astronomy" />

The meta description is important because the search engine will often use it as the snippet on the results page.

The meta keyword is not so important to the search engines anymore, because it was abused. Don't use repetitions, up to ten different words is plenty. It is easy to overdo keywords, and the search engine will not favor that. So just write naturally in your page's content.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2007, 01:40:07 PM »

Hi, Mr.Drilldown, I really appreciate your very kind heart and bother  to advise me on this.To be frank with You, I donot know anything  Practically about CODES, I learnt all the very hard ways by trials and errors by Visual Modes.Anyhow, I will try to  do what you have advised.

If there is visual mode to do it, I think I can do it  easier.If you do need feng shui's help   or  future luck prediction, Just email me I would offer  free.

Thank again.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 06:41:20 AM »

Mr.Drilldown,

It is like the following? The content I added in are xuankong-liufa-/4pillars astrology.ebooks and courses.
Please correct me , if I am wrong.

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4<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
5<title>xuankong-liufa/4pillars astrology/ebooks and courses</title><meta name="description" 6content="Sentence summarizing the topic" />
7<meta name="keywords" content="xuankong-liufa-/4pillars astrology/ebooks and courses" />
8<style type="text/css">
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 01:26:06 PM »

not sure what you mean by "visual"  -
is the "insert" menu ---> "headtags" selection
the sorta thing you were looking for?

=If there is visual mode to do it, I think I can do it  easier.If you do need feng shui's help   or  future luck prediction, Just email me I would offer  free.

Thank again.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2007, 09:16:44 PM »

Code:
<title>Xuankong Liufa 4 Pillars Astrology | ebooks, courses</title>
<meta name="description" content="Guide to Xuankong-Liufa 4 pillars astrology, ebooks and courses." />
<meta name="keywords" content="xuankong liufa astrology 4 pillars school ebook course" />

This example is just to show the format. You will probably have to scroll right to read it all. It would work better than nothing, but I'm sure you'll want to make adjustments.

Don't use slashes to separate phrases. In the title you could use " | " or " : " or " - " In the Meta keywords you could separate them by either a comma and a space, or just a space as shown here. You could make the description longer.

I didn't see the words astrology, 4 pillars, ebook, or course in the particular page you linked to. It's important to put every one of the words in your title also into the content of your page.

IF xuankong is closely related to feng shui, (a wild guess) consider adding feng shui in the title, description, and content, because people will search for it.

Anyone who can understand the mysteries of your complex topic certainly can learn to make sense of the code view. It is more logical and easier to pick up than English. If you are curious, explore other websites' code. In your browser's top toolbar, just click "View" > "Page Source."
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2007, 09:39:44 AM »

Hi ftjohn, I meant the design version.There are the code version and the  design version in dreamveaver. In coffe cup, designer, it is called the  visual  version. I dont know anything about the codes and I try hard to learn the very basic By Theories.

As to Mr drilldown's commend, I will follow it up again.It is very kind of you offering constructive advise again and again.In my country,with my age and educational background, html and all those codes, and even the very basic internet technology  are something we have never ever dreamt of.No doubt, it is a very uncommon common sense to advance west.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2007, 04:25:56 PM »

Then that should be perfect, since it's done through the top menus of DW whether you're viewing a split screen, design or code view. Just look along the very top of the Dreamweaver menu, you should see "INSERT" which will drop down to "HEADTAGS" and you should be all set.


Hi ftjohn, I meant the design version.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2007, 11:20:16 PM »

Hello. I am using dreamveaver8, may be some terms both you had described are of other  version.There are *insert* and *view* tools, there are no *HEADTAGS*.

I would love to learn both ways, one by - insert  by the dialog box and the other  by codes view.
Mr.drilldown wrote:Dreamweaver has dialogue boxes to insert these but it is easier just to write in code view..........

Where could I find that dialogue box to insert key words and  texts ?

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2007, 08:12:06 AM »

I looked in Dreamweaver 8 and found the meta keyword dialog box here:
Insert > HTML > Head tags > keywords, description, etc

It's hard to find things so many levels deep.  Doh

The title seems to be found by a completely different route.  Not Me
Modify > Page Properties > Title/Encoding

Meta tags are not visual things, that is why they reside in the code view only. The dialog box may be a disappointment; it doesn't offer any help. The Help section offers the bare minimum of "help" about header.

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Viewing and editing head content
You can view the elements in the head section of a document using the View menu, the Document window’s Code view, or the Code inspector.

To view elements in the head section of a document:
Select View > Head Content. For each element of the head content, a marker appears at the top of the Document window in Design view. If your Document window is set to show only Code view, View > Head Content is dimmed.
 
To insert an element into the head section of a document:
Do one of the following:
In the Insert bar’s Head category, select click one of the object buttons.
Select an item from the Insert > Head Tags submenu.
Enter options for the element in the dialog box that appears, or in the Property inspector.
To edit an element in the head section of a document:
Select View > Head Content.
Click one of the icons in the head section to select it.
Set or modify the properties of the element in the Property inspector.

To be frank, it took me a while to find these. I had actually never used them and now that I've found them, I intend to promptly forget about them. I view this as the "tail wagging the dog." Let me explain what I mean by that.

It was harder (for me) to find and understand how to make Dreamweaver (sort of) do what I wanted it to do, than it would be just to open the code view and edit these short code snippets. I think time spent trying to get the program to do something like this for me is wasted, and the next update of the program would probably send me chasing down where they moved it. In contrast, any time that I spend trying to understand how to get the code itself to do something for me seems more like it will be paid back.

What I think Dreamweaver is really excellent for is as a tool for expedited learning about the code. Tinker with a test page of code, check the design view and preview in browsers, Oops, that didn't work, change again, preview, repeat...

For parts of the webpage that will never be visual, in my opinion it is easiest just to paste them in the code directly and to edit them in code view when desired. I don't think Dreamweaver is much help for this.

As for whether people in the east or the west understand code, I think we all can agree code is an obstacle in the path of making the web truly accessible.

I sincerely hope that you will try looking at other pages code for sake of curiosity. (right click, View Page Source)  After only a brief look at your complicated webpage, I have confidence that code is within your reach to learn. Any time you spend learning about code would be well spent, and the good news is that learning about code is free to everyone who has web access.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 09:46:06 AM »

Yes, I saw these, under insert>htmL>HeadTag>.meta,keyword,description and ....etc.

So I should fill in the  text for engine submision under Meta, or key word or description.

What are the difference between Meta, Key Words and Description? Since you have found them I just ask so that I don't have to do trial and error on this issues.Otherwise, I would have to test out ther three different result.

Yes, I am aware that the  most correct way  is to  learn is to use html and all those css rules and those  more languages kept pouring out.This is especially the case in installing scripts where I feel coding is the only mean to access.I have to,  weather I like it or not, learn all these  tags and coding and css rules as I go abit advance in internet usage.

You have shown me the correct way to learn and you are very right by and from experience talks.

As on the other issue (Hit counter) on different thread I hve opened, I would try a bit  later to copy the html code for hit counter and paste  there to show as had been advised.I am looking into it now. Thank .

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 10:08:30 AM »

Meta tags appear in the header but not on the page in a visual browser, and not in a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver. There are many different ones and each one has a distinct separate purpose. To overgeneralize, search engine robots read the code to learn information that applies to the whole page.

Meta description is one of the things that help the search engine robots disambiguate keywords that could possibly have several meanings. It often appears in the search engine results page so it should summarize and be inviting.

Meta keyword doesn't matter much. If you are managing a lot of websites and pages, it could be a reminder of the page's focus. If a search engine query brought up two pages from your own site the keywords might perhaps help the engine decide which one of your pages is more relevant. Least among other things, that is.

There are a lot of meta tags that don't often get used, such as meta author. Only use the meta tags that you need. Meta robots is commonly used for example, to tell bots not to index certain pages. It might be useful someday if you ever need it.

If you want to experiment with your webpage in Dreamweaver, define a test site and copy your page there, renaming it with a test name. Play with it there to your heart's content, mess it up and fix it until you know what thing does what. All in the secure knowledge that the original is still on your online website, and safely backed up in the real site in Dreamweaver.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2007, 10:23:17 AM »

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So I should fill in the  text for engine submision under Meta, or key word or description.

You need to very carefully craft a unique title, and meta description for each page. They must describe the page, not the whole website. Of course your home page will be a broader topic than the others. Have just one topic per page and focus tightly.
Meta keyword just quickly list a few, no big deal, spend a couple minutes, no more. Each page unique as possible.

This does not submit anything to anyone. To get indexed by the search engines, don't bother with submitting. Just get someone else's website to link to yours and wait for the bots to visit. Even if you did submit it, the engines ignore it unless someone linked to you.

You don't need a counter. In CPanel, look at your web statistics log analysis. Webalyzer will tell you a lot of interesting details about your visitors.
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