houkouonchi
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« on: March 04, 2008, 10:49:23 AM » |
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So here it is:
Why does lp offer 15TB on its shared hosting plans and only 1-2.5 TB on its dedicated servers???
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Mitch
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 11:10:16 AM » |
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Well, with dedicated servers you are paying more for the dedicated hosting features and backend services. Not to mention server resources such as RAM and CPU.
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houkouonchi
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2008, 02:49:54 AM » |
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Well that definitely answers why the service is more expensive (which I would totally expect) but I still don't get why the bandwidth is so much less than the shared hosting packages? How much would it cost to get a dedicated server with the Dedicated I from this link: http://www.lpdedicated.com/servers/linux.phpexcept with the same 15TB limit as your shared hosting? |
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2008, 03:06:21 AM » |
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Lunar offers that Kind of bandwidth on its shared plans as a courtesy to its customers, they still have to pay for that enormous amount of bandwidth, If you were to purchase a dedicated server and want that dedicated bandwidth it would be costly, do you really see your site using that much bandwidth? Once purchasing a dedicated, you may monitor bandwidth usage, if you are getting close to going over, you may always upgrade the bandwidth on the server.
Just trying to save ya some money
Hope this helps
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houkouonchi
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2008, 03:59:21 AM » |
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I don't get that? Offers the bandwidth as a courtesy to its customers? It seems to me that you either provide XXXX amount of bandwidth or not, I don't really understand where you are getting at. If you are saying that the level of bandwidth (quality) or what not is different on shared/vs dedicated then why couldn't you just have a dedicated server on the same network the shared is? Also you assume that this is for hosting a web-site but dedicated servers can be used for all sorts of other types of hosting which is not necessarily a website (video streaming, game servers, etc...). I easily see the usage going over considering my current site uses about 2500 GB of bandwidth a month already which is already higher than the highest tier that you have to get from LP if you need that much bandwidth and the overage costs are expensive. I understand that even with shared hosting it is not unmeetered/unlimited but if I understand things correctly you are not billed for overages until you reach 15TB or more of bandwidth usage (this is about a 45 mbit average).
I still don't understand why you would give your shared hosting plans more bandwidth than a higher paying dedicated customer especially if they were willing to pay for the price of the dedicated server *and* a shared hosting plan. I guess I could think of a few reasons but I wont mention right now as I am giving LP the benefit of the doubt.
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« Last Edit: March 05, 2008, 04:05:06 AM by houkouonchi »
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2008, 08:16:12 AM » |
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I think its fairly simple. The basic accounts can have that amount of bandwidth offered as the likelyhood of actually using that amount of bandwidth is fairly remote. With the volume seen with basic accounts, the few times that a basic account would use this amount of bandwidth is more than averaged out by the many accounts that use only a very small fraction of the allottment. With a dedicated account, the bandwidth is split between a much smaller group of customers that are more than likely going to use a significant amount of the allotted bandwidth. As such, the allotment for dedicated accounts must be much closer to the anticipated volume.
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houkouonchi
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2008, 10:30:15 AM » |
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Ok, thanks wektech that seems pretty honest and pretty much explains it. Basically you are willing to take a huge (even more so than a dedicated server using that amount of bandwidth) loss on people who actually use that bandwidth but just offer it simply so you can as the amount of shared customers who would actually used that are near nill. I think that covers it pretty much eh?
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wektech
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2008, 10:46:33 AM » |
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I think this is such a common tactic that the various shared hosts must participate in the one upmanship of providing these huge bandwidth and storage limits. Several are now saying that the basic accounts have unlimited bandwidth and storage. It's like a bunch of little kids playing "I dare you to step over that line". When I look for shared hosting, I pretty much ignore the bandwidth, storage, and email account limits, concentrating on things like customer service, real world performance, and CPU useage policies.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2008, 08:36:36 PM » |
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Hi Houkouonchi, Since these forums are only a community of LP customers, you could email your concerns and suggestions about the dedicated plan to feedback@lunarpages.com for management's review. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2008, 05:53:41 AM » |
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Think of it this way. There's no possible way for a shared account to use 15TB without eating up the server's resources. I'm guessing there isn't a single basic shared account using 1TB, or even a third of one. Bandwidth is expensive, however your account's resources are the big picture. Just like LP's celeron dedi package w/ 1TB bw. The majority of websites eating up more than 1TB are going to need a stronger cpu & more ram. I had a celeron dedi years ago using 1.2-1.5TB. The pages on it would take minutes to load because the cpu and ram could not handle that type of load. I had to upgrade to a P4, and eventually a dual xenon. Remember, you can have all the bandwidth in the world, but it won't do you any good if you don't have the resources to withstand that traffic.  |
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2008, 02:23:10 AM » |
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Think of it this way. There's no possible way for a shared account to use 15TB without eating up the server's resources. I'm guessing there isn't a single basic shared account using 1TB, or even a third of one. Bandwidth is expensive, however your account's resources are the big picture. Just like LP's celeron dedi package w/ 1TB bw. The majority of websites eating up more than 1TB are going to need a stronger cpu & more ram. I had a celeron dedi years ago using 1.2-1.5TB. The pages on it would take minutes to load because the cpu and ram could not handle that type of load. I had to upgrade to a P4, and eventually a dual xenon. Remember, you can have all the bandwidth in the world, but it won't do you any good if you don't have the resources to withstand that traffic. Very good comment  |
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