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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2006, 03:09:45 AM » |
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They've continued to tell me to ask the hosting plan that I'm using for the answers.
It has nothing to do with the hosting  Their support staff are wrong to tell you this. I have no idea what they mean by interpolating those variables.
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2006, 03:22:44 AM » |
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What might they have meant when they had said that there are further variables in the full ad URL required for their product to effectively check the ad's statistics?  That's what has me stumped.
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2006, 07:59:31 AM » |
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Does anyone know or have any idea what they could have meant? 
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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2006, 04:23:08 AM » |
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If anyone is willing to kindly furnish me with the full ad URL from on my web page it would be highly appreciated. http://www.bleu-wizard.com/dinosaur I do intend to read up on HTML after this coming Fall semester. You all have my esteem and gratitude for all of your help so far. Currently I am saving my money to purchase books otherwise I would purchase some books on HTML right now. My goal is to hopefully have the full ad URL prior to August 25th. That is when I will be moving into my dorm room. Again any further assistance in this matter would be highly appreciated. 
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2006, 04:36:02 AM » |
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This is as close as you'll get but it won't help you without the Google supplied javascript. http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2006, 04:50:14 AM » |
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This is as close as you'll get but it won't help you without the Google supplied javascript. http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js
Please clarify what you meant. Are you saying that without asking google for the full ad URL that there is no other way whatsoever to find out what it is? With the current partial ad URL Stat Checker has only been giving me an "Error, please input full URL" message. Also if anyone else can furnish me with the full ad URL please do so. 
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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2006, 08:29:45 AM » |
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Why did you post that random image to your post?
I don't have adsense, but wouldn't it include stats?
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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2006, 09:16:30 AM » |
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I am aware that Google Adwords displays statistics in multiple different categories. What I want to do is to compare statistics between the stats page in my Google Adwords account and the ad's statistics as determined by Stat Checker. That is why I am in search of the full ad HTML to input into Stat Checker. Also I have kindly removed the picture of blue hills that was in question. 
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2006, 11:09:14 AM » |
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* GMTurner takes a deep breath  Stat Checker, as far as I've been able to gather, is used to track clicks and such for ads hosted in your account. Ads from Google AdSense, although displayed on your page, are not actually hosted in your account. They are hosted with Google. So, when someone clicks on the ad, google is able to track their usage. Since the ad is not really in your account (ie the URL for the ad points to google and not to you), I do not believe Stat Checker is going to be able to track it as you want. I do not know this for sure, but it is my guess based on how you have described the program so far. It might also be possible for Stat Checker to track links coming into your site. For example, if you had an image that others used to advertise your site with a url/link that pointed to your site, stat checker could probably track and see how often people followed that link coming into your site. But, in this case, because the ads are hosted at Google (ie the links/URLs for the ads do not contain yourdomain.com), it is unlikely that stat checker will be able to track their usage. Hope this helps clarify the issue(s)...
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2006, 03:00:05 PM » |
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Still it would be nice if I were able to obtain the full ad URL (including the ad HTML plus the values at the end of the ad URL interpolated such as win_name, tref etc.) for the purpose of inputting it into Stat Checker so that I could know for sure. 
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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2006, 03:27:48 PM » |
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Listen this is what I see happening here. A question was asked a few pages back asking basically if anyone here knows enough about web design plus ads on websites to locate the full ad HTML from the advertisement on their web page. No one here that has been replying seems to really know enough on the subject to really be of actual help. I mean I'm looking through this thread and seeing people asking a newbie a question that they already answered earlier in the thread. All that's really happening here is that this guy's is continually being told that he knows very little about web design plus ad HTML by people that really don't have a clue how to appropriately answer his question. I don't know the full ad HTML. I don't know how to find it either. The difference is that I am honest enough to admit it. Rather than mocking your limited web design ability. (Or giving you the run around) 
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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2006, 04:40:46 PM » |
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if anyone here knows enough about web design plus ads on websites to locate the full ad HTML from the advertisement on their web page. No one here that has been replying seems to really know enough on the subject to really be of actual help. Actually, it's more that most of us do not know enough about the " Stat Checker" program that DoctorLight is trying to use in conjunction with his Advertiser's ads  Here's his original thread which this thread had continued from: http://www.lunarforums.com/forum/index.php?topic=33936.0But, evidently, "yes" we do not know enough about the " Stat Checker" software program to give any useful help with that (but we have several times asked for a link to where he purchased that program from, so we could try to help him better, but none was provided) ... but Members here were trying their best to help him understand that with some types of ad programs that he's trying to use the " Stat Checker" program with, he might not be able to use an img tag. I can see how both DoctorLight and Members can become frustrated when trying to provide help and receive help, and I do apologize to DoctorLight if I had inferred to him (by linking to those Google links) as not knowing how to create an image tag, but I assure you, my intention was not that of mocking him ... I truly thought he did not know this info (especially based on this post in that other thread: http://www.lunarforums.com/forum/index.php?topic=33936.msg254964#msg254964) Anyway, I don't believe this is really a case of people not being honest about their limited knowledge (because many of us in the other thread have already confessed that we do not know anything about the " Stat Checker" program  ), but it is definitely obvious that we cannot help DoctorLight any further with this and the only ones who can give him any sort of answer are those who are using the "Stat Checker" program with those type ads, or the makers of " Stat Checker" themselves. P.S. You really can't blame too much those who wanted to still try to offer some sort of help or understanding, though. Otherwise, no one would be responding to his posts at all, and would that then be better? 
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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2006, 07:32:07 PM » |
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Samson, I couldn't disagree more. All I see are experienced web designers offering free help and advice. I personally spent a good amount of time analyzing DoctorLight's web pages, his HTML, surfing BidVertiser's website, searching Google for "Stat Checker", decomposing BidVertiser's javascript and resulting HTML, and doing my best to offer explanations of what I could find out, based on the limited information provided. It's pretty obvious that a lot of other forum members have done the same. I don't see how that is giving someone the run around.
Now, as leighsww pointed out, having a link to "Stat Checker's" website or some other documentation might help. A Google search for "Stat Checker" does not return any definitive results. Without further information, no one is going to be able to help more than they already have.
In all likelihood, Stat Checker tracks static banner ads. However, BidVertiser ads and Google ads are dynamic, not static. So, it is likely that Stat Checker simply can't track these kinds of ads. But again, without more information about "Stat Checker" no one can say for sure. If more information about "Stat Checker" was provided (a link to their website would be nice), someone might be able to devise a work-around.
Sorry if this seems like more run-around (it's not meant to be).
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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2006, 09:21:27 PM » |
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Samson, As Leighsww & Oxsley have pointed out, there are many users here who have taken the time to explain details of the situation and assist in finding a solution. At times it appears that a lack of knowledge is resulting in questions being asked that do not make sense to those with more experience. When this happens, attempts are made to both explain/teach about the issue and ask for clarification to learn more about what is going on in an attempt to answer the question. We all started out from a point of not knowing things and so we take the time to offer assistance because we want to help others. When we read the question, we realize that there is something "missing" that prevents an answer from being found. It isn't that we can't answer the question, but rather that the question does not make sense to it based on our experience/knowledge of HTML, web design, etc. and although we would like to help we need more information... Also, as I (and others) pointed out in other threads (and perhaps earlier in this one) the web pages DoctorLight has created are not in proper HTML format (they do not have a .html extension (or any extension for that matter), do not contain <HTML> tags, etc. The lack of an extension actually results in the page loading as plain text in many browsers rather than an HTML page. (Internet Explorer treats everything as HTML unless told otherwise, but other browsers such as FF do not. So, when I go his site I see the HTML source code for the page rather than it displaying as intended.) Perhaps some might interpret this as criticism or moking, but I take it as an attempt to try and explain to someone how to improve their pages while explaining both how and why it should be done. In other matters, after switching to IE and hitting reload several times, I finally got "part" of what I was looking for... the URL for two different ads The first URL was: pagead2.googlesyndication/...BMAagc7vWRPuhFoHGwALco6X_...F1cg&num=1&adurl=http://www.dragonscavern.com/%3FMMCF_g-banner-ad&client={AdSenseClientID}&nm=11
and the second was: pagead2.googlesyndication/...Bm7Ib6LvWRMTrJaa6swGfkoy_...AsCg&num=1&adurl=http://www.blinkbits.com/blinks/Dinosaur&client={AdSenseClientID}&nm=3
Note that these two ads both point to google (ie googlesyndication.com). So clicking on either ad would result in a GET request going to Google's servers. I'm not sure how Stat Checker could track this click since there is no information being sent to DoctorLight's server when the link is clicked. Since no information is sent to DoctorLight's server, I can not see how Stat Checker would even know it was clicked. Also, this means that each "ad" would have a separate URL/tag rather than their being 1 URL/tag for all ads. Also, note that this links do not contain the missing paramters to which DoctorLight keeps referring. I still do not know what the names of those parameters are since they are not standard to HTML, but rather are going to be specific to Stat Checker or something else DoctorLight is using. Since DoctorLight can not (or at least has not) provided this information, it is hard to assist. We would all like to help, and are trying to get the information from DoctorLight that we need to try and answer the questions, but so far have been rather unsuccessful in our attempts. Again, it really seems that stat checker is not designed to track dynamic ads which are being displayed from another site. Rather, it would be used to track incoming links (ie clicks on ads from other websites to DoctorLight's website) or clicks on ads that actually link to DoctorLight's site in some way. Currently, the ads being shown (ie the Google Ads, and the bidvertiser ads before) do not link to DoctorLight's site, so I do not think Stat Checker will be appropriate for tracking them. But, as others have noted, without more information on Stat Checker, it is hard to say... Rowan Edit: changed quote to code to stop false ad clicks, thanks Leighsww GMTurner Edit: modified the URLs so that they are shorter and even less clickable, but still show some of the differences between them... 
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« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2006, 10:46:37 PM » |
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Not to be a nosy buggar or silly, but I noticed this about your profile photo Samson: http://www.freeimghosting.com/images/Aaron/p1154902283113.jpg This is DoctorLight's: http://www.freeimghosting.com/images/Aaron/p1128557142302_106x150.jpgThese are the same user (Aaron) at the free image hosting place, and the pics look like the same person. Hopefully, I'm mistaken and you are instead a friend of DoctorLight's helping him out. The cat, they say, is out of the bag now, eh? 
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