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Author Topic: How to read WhoIs - To better understand DNS propagation  (Read 11352 times)
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« on: November 19, 2003, 09:29:13 AM »

Hi,

Considering the number of people who are asking about DNS information, I am posting this thread to try to allay any confusion on this matter.

Let's start with a few things to note:

Simply go to your registrar (the company you registered the domain name with) and login with the username and password they gave you when you registered the domain name and then make the DNS changes as specified below.

NS1.LUNARPAGES.COM
NS2.LUNARPAGES.COM
(Please note that some sites have dynamicname instead of lunarpages listed for the nameservers; dynamicname and lunarpages are interchangeable nameserver names)

Additionally, the IP addresses (which might differ than those listed on our FAQ page) will be included in your critical account information e-mail that you receive when you open an account.  These are the correct IP addresses and are very important to note when looking at the Whois data that I will explain below.

Please note after changing the nameservers to reflect your new host it takes up to 72 hours for servers world wide to learn of your domain's new location.  Your domain name will not work nor will your e-mail until propagation has taken place.

Now, for the Whois info:

Do a Whois search at a company like Centralops at http://centralops.net/co/  For the selection, choose "Domain Dossier" on the left, then check only the DNS records option.  Now, click go.  Using my website (bestgarden.net), I received the following results (please note that the only way I could get the DNS records to line up using BBCode was to input them as code even though in Whois they are not code):

Address lookup
canonical name bestgarden.net.
aliases
addresses 64.235.234.68
 

DNS records
Code:
name                        class  type   data                    

bestgarden.net              IN     A      64.235.234.68
bestgarden.net              IN     NS     ns1.lunarpages.com
bestgarden.net              IN     NS     ns2.lunarpages.com
bestgarden.net              IN     SOA    server: ns1.lunarpages.com
                                          email: alerts@lunarpages.com
                                          serial: 1066614823
                                          refresh: 28800
                                          retry: 7200
                                          expire: 3600000
                                          minimum ttl: 86400
bestgarden.net              IN     MX     preference: 0
                                          exchange: bestgarden.net
68.234.235.64.in-addr.arpa  IN     PTR    leo.lunarpages.com
234.235.64.in-addr.arpa     IN     SOA    server: ns1.lunarpages.com
                                          email: hostmaster@add2net.com
                                          serial: 2003110413
                                          refresh: 28800
                                          retry: 7200
                                          expire: 2419200
                                          minimum ttl: 86400


Also, please note that I removed the time to live field from Whois in my listing above.

Okay, to explain the important areas to note.  First of all, look at addresses under Address lookup.  It shows 64.235.234.68.  Next, look at the Nameservers (NS) in DNS records.  They are shown as:

ns1.lunarpages.com
ns2.lunarpages.com

Now, this shows that my nameservers are set correctly.

So, how do I know the IP is right?  Well, look at the PTR entry under type.  It shows leo.lunarpages.com (my server) and 68.234.235.64 as the IP.  This is the reverse of the IP address shown above (64.235.234.68), which is how it appears in the pointer.  This means that yes, my site is live and propagated.

If you ever have a question as to whether your site is propagated, has the correct nameservers, whatever, look at these DNS records and the Address lookup, and follow the steps of comparison I just detailed to confirm they are Lunarpages nameservers and your server on Lunarpages.  If they are, you are good to go.  If they are not and it has been over 3 days, contact us and we can look into it.

I hope this helps and doesn't lead to more confusion.

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2003, 10:33:43 AM »

Fabulous message!

You should make it sticky so it stays forever.  SMILE!

All my domains are now referring to lunarpages -- at
least via the Rutgers T3 connection.  

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2003, 10:43:44 AM »

GO RUTGERS!
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2003, 10:58:38 AM »

I teach at Rutgers so I will take your rallying cry as genuine and not a mockery.  SMILE!

http://www.andromeda.rutgers.edu/~dboles/

Best,

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2003, 11:01:27 AM »

Quote from: taglio
Fabulous message!

You should make it sticky so it stays forever.  SMILE!

By popular demand, this is now a sticky post. Great work, Miraenda.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2003, 11:04:47 AM »

Ah, thanks Steve. Smile  I am glad people find it useful.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2003, 11:19:28 AM »

Quote from: taglio
I teach at Rutgers so I will take your rallying cry as genuine and not a mockery.  SMILE!

http://www.andromeda.rutgers.edu/~dboles/

Best,

db


I graduated from Rutgers. Class of 95.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2003, 12:35:28 PM »

GO SCARLET KNIGHTS!  SMILE!

(p.s. UNITEDSTAGE.COM is pointing to the old host at from my home setup on Verizon DSL.  All other domains have propagated over to Lunarpages.  This is a little strange since Verizon provides the Rutgers T3 line.  You'd think a Verizon DNS update would self-propagate a few miles to all their servers but it isn't true!)

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2003, 03:46:34 AM »

If the address lookup failed and the name servers are correct I assume it means it hasn't propagated yet right? I wonder why when I type my address it sends me to a search engine though.  Confused

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2003, 05:11:10 AM »

Hi Kruppa --

Your site loads to a dead page for me not a search engine.  That's becaues I have my browser set to die on a failed domain instead of trying to search for it.  Going to a search engine is not a universal setting of your site -- it is a local browser option.

Yes, if your site is new, it is most certainly a propagation issue you are seeing (or not seeing!).  Beware a strange thing with propagation.  In a few hours all 4 of my domains were live on LunarPages and then, slowly, they died or reflected back to my old hosting service over the next 48 hours.  It was truly odd to see my new pages load one minute and then be gone the next and then appear a few hours later only to disappear again.  That coming and going is all part of the propagation process but it does freak you out a bit.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2003, 06:48:46 AM »

Oh ok, I was trying to pay no attention to it (it's only been registered yesterday) but with the recent freak occurence that took away my domain from me after 3 months of using it I'm paranoid about everything that has to do with domain registration. Mr. Green I was starting to think my domain was highjacked by someone because I've seen this search engine before. I just didn't know it was a browser setting.

Thanks for the reply, it answered another question at the same time. Thumbs Up
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2003, 06:55:45 AM »

Hi Kruppa!   Thumbs Up

Yes, when domains are in propagation, my sage advice learned the hard way  Applause is to turn off your computer for 48 hours and don't even TRY to load your websites because the "propagation magic show" will kill ye!   Luff Ya

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2004, 03:05:06 PM »

Hi there,

I want to add a domain to my account and

I was wondering which address I should use for
neptune.lunarpages.com

cause I was just been told my domain has been transfered to it, and I could not find the email when I created my account a year ago.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2004, 03:14:39 PM »

Hi lothian,

If you are setting up the DNS nameservers for a domain, you would always use NS1.LUNARPAGES.COM and NS2.LUNARPAGES.COM for the primary and secondary nameservers.  If your account has been moved from another server to neptune, you would not need to change your DNS nameservers.

I hope this helps.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2004, 03:34:29 PM »

Thanks a lot.

One of my domain, chinarain.net was registered with freeparking.co.uk

When I changed the DNS settings from the control panel, it seems it can not done. I was wondering if you got some suggestions on that.

Cause when I told them, they just replying that I need to speak my host company.

I was so confused, cause I hosted a few domains there.


And do you have any good places I can move my domain to (registrar)?

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