Web Hosting Forum | Lunarpages
News: November 3, 2008 - Enter Your URL in to WIN the November Site of the Month Award!
 
*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 21, 2008, 05:36:32 PM


Login with username, password and session length


Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Redirecting to subdomain....  (Read 416 times)
Scotter
Trekkie
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 11


« on: October 06, 2008, 12:48:48 PM »

Hi, I'm hoping someone can give me some advice on this...

Lets say I have a website at (A)www.mysite.com which is also accessible through (B)mysite.com. Should I, for the purpose of SEO, set up a permanent redirect from B to A? I have read on some SEO guides that this is necessary but I have never seen the B version listed on search engines so I was wondering if it really made any difference?

And just to confuse things, I have set up an e-commerce site at (C)shop.mysite.com for testing purposes but would now like to keep it there and have site A and B redirected there. So should I redirect each one there or should it be B to A to C?

And just to confuse things even further.... my business and customers are based solely in Ireland (.ie domain). Because my site is .com I do crap on google.ie searches and was hoping to purchase a .ie name today so I would then also have www.mysite.ie and mysite.ie.

What is the best SEO way to have these domains set up? Or should I just move the shop to www.mysite.ie and have everything permanently redirect there?
Logged
speculumcm
Intergalactic Cowboy
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 63


Dark Matter: Particle collider


« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2008, 12:38:47 PM »

Hi Scotter,

The choice of using the canonical version (A) or (B) of your domain name is up to you. However some Googlers advice to choose one of them, here are some links of interest in that regards:

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-advice-url-canonicalization/
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/canonicalization-update/
http://groups.google.com/group/only-validation/web/fix-canonical-issues-www-vs-non-www-and-more-on-apache-server?pli=1

If you've already read the links now you can answer your second question which you've realized that it is just your Domain name that should be redirected to (C). So you can skip canonicalization.

For the third question try this suggestion:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/10/better-geographic-choices-for.html

Tell us how that works for you  Smiling
Hope this help!

Logged
Scotter
Trekkie
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 11


« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2008, 04:33:58 AM »

I wasn't sure after a few days if I would get any reply on this but the one I got was certainly worth the wait! Thank you very much speculumcm. There is some great, and easy to understand, advice in those links.

OK then... I have moved the site to www.mydomain.ie and 301 redirected ALL variations of links to it using .htaccess files and the rewrite function in your 3rd link above.

This includes variations like www.mysite.com, my.site.com, mysite.com/, and even mysite.com/index.php. So now, as I understand it, google will know that www.mysite.ie is my preferred canonical version and will use that URL on all search results.

Because my domain has the country domain .ie now, google will always associate my site with Ireland even though my site is hosted in the US. This is great news as I was not showing in the organic search in google.ie at all and was in the top ten for google.com.

Of course it will take a few weeks to see the true value of these changes but I will let you know how I get on.

Thank you once again for your help Speculumcm! Thumbs Up
Logged
Scotter
Trekkie
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 11


« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 11:17:38 AM »

Ok,

Up until yesterday Google had slowly being indexing my site and had indexed 34 pages. Today I see they have indexed 216 pages which is about the total.

Unfortunately though, it is still listing .com as my home page instead of .ie

I have a .htaccess 301 redirect from my .com to my .ie domain.

How can I get google to list my .ie domain instead of .com?

Logged
speculumcm
Intergalactic Cowboy
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 63


Dark Matter: Particle collider


« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 06:49:23 AM »

Hi Scotter,

Give us a link to your site pls!   Play
Logged
cemedia
Spaceship Captain
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 115


WWW
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 07:03:03 AM »

Go to google webmaster tools and re-submit your sitempas, ror.xml, sitemap.xml, sitemap.xml.gz, urllist.txt ... for you .ie

might help ...



Logged

Scotter
Trekkie
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 11


« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 07:08:36 AM »

Hi, thanks for the help.

It would seem I still did not have the redirects set up in a SE friendly way. I had mysite.com pointing to www.mysite.com and then that in turn pointing to sub.mysite.com and then finally sub.mysite.com pointing to www.mysite.ie.

I have now pointed all domains with a 301 redirect directly to www.mysite.ie.

Google has not crawled the site in a few days so I'm still waiting to see if it works.

I'm reluctant to post a live domain as it is a Lingerie & Adult Toys shop and thus contains adult content. (and the forum doesn't seem to have PM's)

On a related matter...

My target visitors are in Ireland but my site is hosted in the US. I have read this will effect search results and I was just wondering is it a major issue or a minor one??

Regards.

Logged
cemedia
Spaceship Captain
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 115


WWW
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 07:15:15 AM »

shouldn't be a problem if you mention it through a meta tag

eg

<meta name="country" content="IE">

not sure if the country code is correct for Ireland better check that up

You also have the following meta tag possible

<meta name="coverage" content="Nationwide">

content for this meta tag can be global, local or nationwide

I hope this helps


Logged

Scotter
Trekkie
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 11


« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 07:28:15 AM »

Never knew that Camedia, thank you.
Logged
speculumcm
Intergalactic Cowboy
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 63


Dark Matter: Particle collider


« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 07:58:16 AM »

Hye Scotter,

It seems that you didn't read the forth link I provided you or re-read it pls. Idea

Quote
I had mysite.com pointing to www.mysite.com and then that in turn pointing to sub.mysite.com and then finally sub.mysite.com pointing to www.mysite.ie.

I have now pointed all domains with a 301 redirect directly to www.mysite.ie.

Hmmm, Actually there are not all domains but just one and since apparently it's a new site you could skip rewrites and with a simple redirection should've been enough.  Ner Ner

Something placed in your root directory in your .htaccess file of your Domain.com like
 
Redirect 301 / http://www.yourDomain.ie

And that's it. However, without seeing a url it's more complicated to help accurately.  Roll
Logged
Scotter
Trekkie
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 11


« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 02:52:42 AM »

Hi Speculumcm,

I did read it and I did set the .com version as 'in Ireland' with google. I've submitted 2 sitemaps, both OK'ed by google, and placed a robots.txt denying access to all admin folders&files and also av.

If I do a search for info:www.mysite.ie google returns  www.mysite.com  as the homepage. If I do a site:www.mysite.ie search google returns 246 results which I'm sure is the whole site (except for home page). I've submitted the site manually to Google and I've now set all versions of the domain to www.mysite.ie.

Google last crawled the site on 21st October so hopefully in the next few days it will crawl again and see the new redirect settings.


I have no problem posting the live URL I just don't want to get in trouble with the mods here. I'll post it anyway and if a mod feels it should be removed then so be it. It's a Lingerie and Toys shop so the images are adult in content but nothing hardcore or anything like that. No nudity.

***WARNING: Contains adult content. If you are Under 18 years old or are easily offended do not click this link.
www.annsummersnights.ie

Most important keywords/phrases are:
Ann Summers
Ann Summers Party/Parties
Lingerie
Sex Toys

www.annsummersnights.ie/sitemap.xml
www.annsummersnights.ie/sitemap_prods.xml
www.annsummersnights.ie/robots.txt

On a related matter.... does being on a shared server hurt SEO much?

Thank you very much for your time and help. Big Wink


Logged
speculumcm
Intergalactic Cowboy
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 63


Dark Matter: Particle collider


« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 08:28:57 AM »

Hi Scotter,

Quote
I did read it and I did set the .com version as 'in Ireland' with google.

So, are you still using your site.com or have you redirected to site.ie? Right, you've already redirected it so you didn't need to take the bother in set the .com version as 'in Ireland' with google because it's already in site.ie.

Quote
If I do a search for info:www.mysite.ie google returns  www.mysite.com  as the homepage. If I do a site:www.mysite.ie search google returns 246 results which I'm sure is the whole site (except for home page). I've submitted the site manually to Google and I've now set all versions of the domain to www.mysite.ie.

Google last crawled the site on 21st October so hopefully in the next few days it will crawl again and see the new redirect settings.

Sure and you did it pretty well  Clapping.
What we are seeing in that search is the cache and takes time to remove it and sometimes takes too much time but the web it's aware of your redirections, this is what the web sees of your site.com:

http://web-sniffer.net/?url=www.annsummersnights.com&submit=Submit&http=1.1&type=GET&uak=0

so be patient. ZZzzzz

Quote
I have no problem posting the live URL I just don't want to get in trouble with the mods here. I'll post it anyway and if a mod feels it should be removed then so be it. It's a Lingerie and Toys shop so the images are adult in content but nothing hardcore or anything like that. No nudity.

I don't see any problem, actually I like your site very much and I wonder how those lingeries would look on my girlfriend. Idea

Quote
On a related matter.... does being on a shared server hurt SEO much?

None the least. Don't worry about that.

BTW I saw an Italian flag with a link to ?language=en why is that?

Cheers
Logged
Scotter
Trekkie
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 11


« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 09:43:24 AM »

Speculumcm thank you very much for taking the time to help me. I really appreciate it.   Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up In Heaven

Quote from: speculumcm
BTW I saw an Italian flag with a link to ?language=en why is that?

Cheers

It's an Irish flag not an Italian one Smile It's a language selection Icon. There would usually be 3 or 4 icons (flags) there for English, German, Spanish, etc. As all my customers are in Ireland I swapped the UK flag for the Irish one and disabled the other languages. I just haven't got around to removing it altogether yet.  Doh
Logged
speculumcm
Intergalactic Cowboy
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 63


Dark Matter: Particle collider


« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2008, 10:09:19 AM »

Quote
It's an Irish flag not an Italian one Smile

An Irish flag, of course it should be, how idiot I am Doh

 LOL

Have a good day!
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.6 | SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC

Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS! Dilber MC Theme by HarzeM