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« on: January 21, 2002, 11:22:00 PM »

Well it seems that software giant has new priorities. Or so they say. Instead of producing more product than anyone really needs they now are slowing down and taking more time inserting various security measures into their products.

In my opinion if Microsoft means it they will succeed, they DEFINATELY have MANY talented programmers working for them who could crank out some amazing security features. It’s all about how much Microsoft wants to spend thus the experts review below.

What do you think?

MEMO by BILL GATES

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Security experts hope that this time Microsoft really, really means it.
A memo from Chairman Bill Gates, leaked Wednesday, exhorted Microsoft employees to make the company's products more secure and stated that a new initiative, which Gates called "Trustworthy Computing," is now the software giant's top priority.

The initiative, Gates wrote, aims to make computing and the Internet "as available, reliable and secure as electricity, water services and telephony."

 

While security experts gave Gates' message high marks, they withheld judgment on whether Microsoft--which has been pasted by a series of high-profile security blunders over the past year--can deliver.

"This gives me more hope," said Chris Wysopal, director of research and development for security company @Stake. "Nothing is a cure-all solution, but when you say we have an organization focused on getting security into different product groups, that's got to help."

Gates' message comes as Microsoft is betting its future on its .Net effort, an attempt to give consumers secure, easy and round-the-clock access to businesses via the Internet. Without better security, the software titan will have a hard time convincing developers, businesses and Web users to start using the new services, Wysopal said.

"Because of other (incidents) in the past, they have to make their software more secure if .Net is going to make it," Wysopal said.

Recent problems with Passport, the Microsoft Network and the company's Windows Update service--all considered embryonic versions of future .Net services--have angered consumers and caused security experts to wince.

And past initiatives have not delivered spectacular results, either. Despite Microsoft's Secure Windows Initiative and its Strategic Technology Protection Program, the company fell afoul of a major problem with its flagship Windows XP software. Microsoft has touted XP as its most secure operating system ever and intends to push it as the gateway to .Net.

While the company's new focus is welcome, some in the security community remain cautious. Microsoft--a company found to have abused its monopoly power--isn't exactly the poster child for trustworthiness, and some are wary of the new initiative.

"This comes from the same vendor that tried to settle an antitrust suit by finding a market segment they couldn't penetrate and giving their product away for free" in that market, said David Dittrich, senior security engineer at the University of Washington, referring to recent wrangling over the company's proposed "schools settlement."

In that instance, the company pitched its proposal as a charitable solution that would provide free software to needy schools. But competitors characterized the move as an effort to monopolize the education market.

Similarly, some wonder whether the new security initiative can be taken at face value. And even if it can, some are concerned it could wind up having a downside.

Dittrich points to the company's initiatives to hush up the disclosure of certain information about vulnerabilities in its products and says that, arguably, such an attitude can aid hackers and run counter to interests of security.
Gartner analyst John Pescatore says Microsoft has committed to making its products more secure and worthy of customers' trust. The philosophy outlined in a memo from Bill Gates this week lays out most of the imperatives that Gartner believes are necessary for Microsoft to change the software maker's long-established product management and development culture.
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Security experts and hackers who find bugs in software usually release the information to the public after notifying the program's creator of the flaws. However, the security community has long argued about how much information should be given, since malicious hackers could use details to write tools to help them break into computers using the flaw.

In November, Microsoft and five security companies announced they had formed a group to create a policy for ethical disclosure of such information.

"They should want their employees to know as much about a vulnerability as possible," Dittrich said.

Such apprehensions aside, though, security experts said it's a welcome signal that Microsoft is now taking security seriously enough to give it priority over new features.

"It's about time," said Mark Maiffret, chief hacking officer for network protection company eEye Digital Security. "This is something that Microsoft and other companies have needed to say for a while: Security needs to come before features."

eEye discovered the major hole in Microsoft's Web server software that online vandals used to spread the virulent Code Red worms and a serious hole in Windows XP that could have been exploited by Internet attackers to gain control of any person's PC.

"Finally," Maiffret said, "there is a wake-up call out there that security needs to come first."
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2002, 11:39:00 PM »

i really dont think they can make windows
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2002, 03:57:00 AM »

I think they can make windows more secure its all about choice though.

if they made a secure stable windows they wouldnt need to update its version so often and "claim" a more secure, stable o.s. instead they would have to update it every so many years to keep up with technology instead of the once a year update or twice to three times a year i.e. windows me, nt, 2000.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2002, 08:10:00 AM »

Well if he can make things more secure ..great.
I just hope he can get things running secure, smooth and reliable.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2002, 10:15:00 AM »

bill gates microsofts ceo expresed his concers about
windows xp sokets and other windows xp security isues
microsfts systems engeniers said
they where on the task at hand, and where very sure
they could resolve any and all posible new security issues
at the expense that windows
will now crash twice as much
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2002, 01:25:00 AM »

First came the sword, then the shield.  Then guns, then bullet proof vests.  Then the submarine, then depth charges.  Nuclear missles, anti-missle technology.
   Security is relative.  All a person can do is use what works BEST. Nothing works ABSOLUTELY. What works today will be worked around tomorrow.  The only way to be completely secure is to never install software and make your machine an island, the only wires going to it being a monitor and printer.  Have fun.
    XP has no more security holes than any other MS product.  And, why isn't there all this talk about Mac and Linux?  Simple.  Hackers scan IP addresses.  90% of the IP's out there are Windows based machines.  I know Linux well enough to know it is pretty secure, but just like a user/password combination can be cracked in Windows, so it can be done in Linux.  I believe XP inherently is more secure, based on its tight user management.  I believe the lack of security comes from all the "users" the OS installs to run services, enable remote help and support, etc... Take those out of the picture, and you're much more secure.  But that's at the price of convenience, and so it's been for many years.  Carry a shield, and you get some protection from a sword, but the shield is cumbersome to carry.  Security at the price of convenience.
   One thing I do know.  When I setup my internal dsl modem and connection in XP, it actually created a network in my computer.  The card has one IP, my computer has another IP which is a network IP, not Internet.  I call that a decent level of built-in security-one I did not get from any other Windows OS.  I guess it may have done it in case I wanted to use XP's firewall.  I don't, but the two IP's are still always there whenever I'm online.  Zone Alarm and other programs think that I am on a network and that my dsl card is a firewall.  Nice.
-one last thing.  I'm not praising Microsoft.  A corporation with their abilities could have and should have created a more stable, more secure operating system years ago.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2002, 12:16:00 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2002, 05:05:00 PM »

ok for one im going to put an operating system on my computer that openly announces a back door (trojan aka virus if you dont know.....) so that technicians for microsoft can acces my computer!
the answer is no
now many people are creating d/ling a program that will access that back door!
second they not only have one back door they have two. and if your in the us or read watch pay attention to any computer business that has anything to do with resources about puters has two backdoors.

first legal trojan was net meeting second legal trojan was xp enjoy your legal virus  
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