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« on: March 06, 2003, 05:28:00 AM »

I've been shopping around for new hosting for my website and I have a few questions. Normally I would e-mail them, but I figured maybe other people will have the same questions.

I'm an amateur web designer and I manage two websites. One for my father’s business and just recently my own personal site. I just switched my father’s website to a new service provider today (from one that had good service but was just too expensive since all he really needs is e-mail and a re-direct). The new service provider has similar hosting packages as Lunar for about the same price, but already I’m a bit nervous about the change.  Their control panel is an old version of the software, found out that there is no dedicated IP address, poor instructions on how to use the services, typos everywhere, and slow response to tech support e-mails (3 hours and counting)… they may end up being fine, it’s just not the right foot to be starting out on.

So for my website I’m shopping around a bit more and asking even more questions.  
I registered and purchased hosting through Earthlink (my dialup ISP) in January. They have been reliable with good tech support but are just too expensive and don’t offer much in the way of extras (ASP, sub domains, etc).  As I designed the site and decided what I want it to become, I realized that I want I really need.

It is and will be two things: 1) My online resume (which will include some streaming and downloadable media) 2) A reference site for film school students starting out in the film industry. Ideally, I’d like to have a forum exactly like this one available.

Now on to the specific questions:

Frontpage2002:
I know how to write html and I have a basic understanding of JavaScript but I use FrontPage 2002 to edit most of my pages. Currently I open my website within FrontPage as a network location or web location. I have NO interest is using FTP to manage my site. I want to make sure Lunar supports FrontPage 2002 and all its extensions.

FTP:
Though I don’t want to use FTP for web site management, I do want people who visit my site to be able to upload files. With Lunar, is it possible to set up a directory that anyone can upload to but not have access to the rest of the site?

IP Address:
With previous hosts I was given a dedicated IP address for the websites. Does Lunar offer a Dedicated IP for its domains? If not, is it really necessary? The reason I ask is the new provider for my father’s site does not, and I can’t view the website via IE or log on with FrontPage until the new DNS propagates

E-Mail:
I assume all e-mail associated with a domain is accessible via both http and outlook express (or Eudora, outlook, etc)? If so, what would the URL of the web mail be for my domain? Also, what would the mail sever URLs be?

I am considering offering e-mail to selected users of the site (and possibly selling e-mail accounts). Is the amount of e-mail that passes through the server and stored on the server part of the bandwidth and storage quota for the whole domain? Example: If I have a 20mb storage limit, I should only have 4 e-mail addresses with 5mb quotas each.

I have active e-mail addresses with my current domain. If I transfer the account to you I know it would take up to 72 hours before the DNS info would propagate. Could I set up e-mail accounts using the IP address so there would be as little e-mail downtime as possible?

Technical Support:
Do you offer technical support by phone? If so, what are the hours? What is the average response time via e-mail?

Hardware:
Are your servers physically located on the premises? If not where are they hosted and what is your relationship with your provider?

Backup:
Do you back up websites on your server? If so, how often?

Forum:
Do you offer this Forum software for use in my domain? Does it cost extra? I’ve downloaded the free ASP forum “SnitzTM Forums 2000” Would I be able to use this?

Database:
I’m not too familiar with forum programs, but I understand they use data bases (not too familiar with those either). I have Access but see that you don’t offer access. Is the converter reliable and how much does it cost? Do you know how much it would cost me to purchase MySQL?

That’s all I can think of now… I know this is long and full of grammatical errors and typos. And I know some questions may sound a bit silly, but I’m trying to be thorough.
I’d appreciate a quick response.

Thanks,

Ben
 
 [ March 06, 2003, 01:34 PM: Message edited by: ionad ]
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2003, 06:21:00 AM »

Frontpage extensions are supported, and up to date.

You can have users uploading to directories by FTP or even anonymous users with the Premium package.

To have additional FTP accounts with the standard plan costs $1.95/month (for a pack of 5)

You will not have your own IP address, although you can for $2.50 per month. It's not really needed however. You will get a temporary URL to use with your account until your domain name is transferred.

Mailservers would both be mail.yourdomain.com

Webmail is at www.yourdomain.com/mail or www.yourdomain.com:2095

Yes, the bandwidth from your e-mail and the space the accounts take up are taken out of your main account.

You would not allowed to resell e-mail addresses, as far as I know. Please e-mail support@lunarpages.com to check, but I am 99% sure that you cannot.

I don't think it would be possible to do what you asked about the e-mail addresses @ the ip address. I doubt it would work.

The office is open from 7:00am to 5:00pm Monday through Friday Los Angeles time. Email support is available 24/7 whilst the telephone support is only during office hours.

The servers are physically at the premises.

The accounts are backed up regularly, you can also make your own backups of the whole account.

This forum, UBB, is not free software. It is in fact extremely expensive.

You can install phpBB from the control panel, which is a great alternative.

ASP is supported, but costs extra ($1 per month).

I would really really recommend using a PHP based forum instead.

mySQL is free! The converter is available, but I don't know where from. If you search google.com or download.com, you should find one quite easily.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2003, 06:36:00 AM »

Thanks for answering all my questions... I know it was a lot. And the fact that you did in under an hour really sealed the deal. I'll sign up after dinner.

Thanks!

Ben
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2003, 08:12:00 AM »

No problem!

My fingers hurt now, but I'll survive!  "[Wink]"  

If you have any more questions, just ask
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2003, 08:28:00 AM »

Ben,

Don't forget the dinner fee.  Send any leftovers directly to the office!
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2003, 08:48:00 AM »

About e-mail and IP adresss... I didn't phrase that question correctly...

For example:

Mail@ionadfilms.com is currently in use.

Once I sign up with lunar pages and I'm given the temp url... can I log onto to the mail admin program to create Mail@ionadfilms.com before the DNS info propagates?

The idea is the second the url swtiches over the e-mail is ready and waiting to receive.

As for dinner... I don't think you'd want the left overs.   "[puke]"
 
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2003, 09:16:00 AM »

We are also looking very seriously at LunarPages for hosting our own sites as well as for clients...

This may be a bit technical, but could be important for us...

- We have done a lot of work with Resin, servlets, and JSPs ... Resin has something known as "connection pooling" for database connections, which allows mysql connections to be pooled/re-used and avoid the overhead of opening/closing connections all the time, effectively allowing "more simultaneous connections" I believe...

- Do you know if your installation of Resin has this feature available?  We have an older developer installation running it .... I am not sure but I thought that to do this required a different mysql driver (jdbc-mysql.jar) vs. the standard one (mm.mysql-2.0.11-bin.jar)...

- In my installation, both of these are in resin/lib ....

Thanks for your help and if it's too techy, I can do some more resin research to perhaps ask a better question :-)

Thanks,
Dave :-)

PS. This is my 2nd post here and I had also emailed support  and gotten a fast response from Kevin on a different issue ... I am VERY impressed with all you guys are doing...

Keep up the great work!
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2003, 03:34:00 PM »

Hi dspotts,

I'll let kelvin know you have posted and he can answer these questions for you  "[Smile]"
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2003, 09:04:00 PM »

Hi,

  I've never actually used the Resin pooling (i hate being tied to 1 specific Servlet Runner),  but I believe the features are available - not exactly what you need, but to give you a clue on configuring it:

http://www.lunarforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=46;t=000078

I personally recommend that customers use a 3rd party pooling library, maybe DBConnectionBroker or the stsLibrary (i use this one).
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2003, 10:21:00 PM »

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Originally posted by EXiL3:
Hi,

  I've never actually used the Resin pooling (i hate being tied to 1 specific Servlet Runner),  but I believe the features are available - not exactly what you need, but to give you a clue on configuring it:

http://www.lunarforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=46;t=000078

I personally recommend that customers use a 3rd party pooling library, maybe DBConnectionBroker or the stsLibrary (i use this one).

Thanks Kelvin & Amy ....

I will look at both ... Resin was my first experience with pooling, I wasn't aware of other options, tho had heard of some ...

I also don't like being tied to one servlet runner (just in case)....

You mention you are using/like the stsLibrary ....

I would like to setup my development system "as close to" LunarPages as possible ....

I'm running Mac OS X and have resin/apache running right now, but my resin is a few revs back... I've also had tomcat running as well, but like resin's auto-recompilation (we were creating java source files "on the fly" at one time and resin would automatically build servlets from them...)

Does anyone know if LP is using resin 2.1.6 (I think i saw that somewhere else...?

Also, would you have a link to info about the stsLibrary you mentioned? (I found DBConnectionBroker easily).....

Thanks again for all your help ... We are *definitely* joining the LP family!

Dave  "[Smile]"
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2003, 02:50:00 AM »

That's great Dave!   "[Big
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