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Brennie369
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« on: June 09, 2009, 08:04:21 AM »

Hey all, I'm soliciting your opinions on page layout. For a site that has alot of reading content (i.e. short stores, poems, etc.), do you think a fixed layout would be better than a fluid layout?
 
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 11:27:24 AM »

While a fixed width offers you a lot more control over how your content is presented, the fluid width accomodates most browser windows including those people that use widescreen monitors. I usually try for a happy medium where a fluid width is used for the page, but where long paragraphs of text are used, I include a max width statement to keep the text comfortable to read. If you have to shift your eyes more than 2 or 3 times to read a line of text, then that line is too long to be comfortably read.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2009, 11:33:19 AM »

That's what I was thinking too. Another thing is font size. With fluid I can designate font sizes in percentages, but if the paragraph width is fixed then it might be harder control how things look in each resolution.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 02:51:08 PM »

A problem with fluid width (that makes me give up on it) is IE6 and below has a hard time display it correctly.

Also remember that people tend to read in narrow columns, that's how magazine and newspaper display their contents. It is not comfortable to read very wide paragraphs.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 05:47:19 PM »

"Most web pages follow a common set of sizes and layouts, which you'll recognise even if you aren't aware of them. For example, did you know that nine out of the top ten most popular websites in the world use a fixed-width, centre-aligned design? Maybe you should too." - [see widths]
http://www.blogjava.net/yellowcola/archive/2009/05/14/270524.html

Mine is fixed, centered, 996px wide with a center content column 600px wide with 16px font so no one has to put on their glasses even viewing on an iPhone.

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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2009, 02:11:13 PM »

So then the question becomes, design for an 800 screen resolution or higher? My stats show that my 800 resolution visitors is down to 6% now.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2009, 05:24:03 PM »

A problem with fluid width (that makes me give up on it) is IE6 and below has a hard time display it correctly.

Also remember that people tend to read in narrow columns, that's how magazine and newspaper display their contents. It is not comfortable to read very wide paragraphs.
Set up an IE6 only style sheet. I wouldn't design my entire site around IE6.

I much prefer fluid width. It allows viewers with high res large screens to use it. Ever see a fixed 800px width web site on a 24" iMac? Looks brutally amateurish IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 08:29:08 AM »

I like fluid layouts a lot better, personally.  But for text-heavy content, look for about 50 characters per line, 35-65 range maybe.  Somebody did a study on this, you might Google to try to find it.  Of course, the user is going to screw you up anyway by changing the font size  Very Happy  For really heavy text, like a book, I might well do an 800px fixed.

You know, a lot of the time it doesn't matter.  I've seen a lot of fluid layouts that, at higher resolutions, just stretch out the side columns.  There's really no need to do fluid if that's how it's going to look!  You might as well fix it at 800, the benefit being that you can do better graphics and control the fonts more easily.  Or another idea, do it fixed at 1280 with the content inside of 800, so they only have to scroll to see navigation or something.

I design for 1280 optimally, making sure it looks good at 800 and 1440.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 10:32:15 PM »

For a site that has a lot of text OR photos, I prefer fluid content, though I would love to use the max-width attribute (doesn't work in IE). That way, the site works whether the person has a small or large screen or whether he or she prefers wide or narrow columns.

However, when I have tables, graphs or photos that go beside some text, I prefer fixed-width design. It's way too easy to have something break irreparably because the person insists on putting two windows side by side on a 800x600 screen, or photos piling up side by side instead of under each other because the person has a 2560x1600 monitor. In that case, unless I really need more width than that, I make sure the site works with a 1024 x 768 screen (a lot of our clientèle either uses that or 1200 x 800 screens)
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2009, 05:05:47 AM »

Thanks for all the replies - I've got some good good for thought!  Smiling
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