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« on: February 14, 2002, 10:43:00 AM » |
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I've had a free account at lunarpages for a long time (since about june last year) and I have a couple of questions.
Firstly you've renamed your free accounts to trial accounts on your website. The trial accounts say there is an ftp login. Do I have access to this? If so how do I access it?
Second, I have been doing a lot of playing around with ASP at work and I'd like to implement some on my site. Can I upload .asp files?
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stephan
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2002, 10:53:00 AM » |
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The address is ftp1.lunarpages.com. You can connect using any normal ftp client avaiable from http://download.cnet.com (or wherever!) ASP is not supported, but PHP is supported (which is similar) http://www.php.net |
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kahlan
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2002, 07:52:00 AM » |
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so why don't you support asp? php isn't supported as part of the free hosting either so that isn't much good to me.  Are your prices in $US? (not that I can afford to have a paid account) As far as I can see from my company there isn't a great deal of difference in hosting html and hosting asp, so why is it all the free hosts skimp and don't allow you to run more than just html??? Surely it wouldn't be a greater strain on band width or the server. BTW... what ever happened to those band width topics. I still can't find out how much band width I use from my free hosting with you. what about xml, etc...?? [ February 17, 2002: Message edited by: Kahlan ] |
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stephan
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2002, 10:59:00 AM » |
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Prices are in US dollars. ASP is a Microsoft technology and although it can be used on a Unix/Linux system, it's not a good idea. PHP is just as good, if not better. ASP/PHP are not on the trial accounts because they use up a lot of processor power. Each page has to be processed before it is sent out, instead of just being sent out. If PHP was on all the trial accounts, the server would not be able to cope. It's not a strain on bandwidth, but it is a strain on the server. I don't know how you can find out how much bandwidth you use. Try e-mailing support@lunarpages.com . If you use up more than you are allowed then you will know! What about XML? |
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kahlan
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2002, 02:39:00 PM » |
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Is xml and such supported? Or is that like html and javascript (meaning that it is automatically supported like dhtml)
I've got this idea in my head that the paid accounts can see how much band width their site uses from thier file manager. If this is true then why can't the free accounts see this too, cause how are we supposed to monitor the band width usage if we don't know how much is being used per month.
btw... I tried once to list my site on a few places where I needed to supply the location of a banner image. Supplying an image from a lunarpages address came up with errors - the image doesn't load - this is a real pain and though it would help stop people from stealing bandwidth by direct linking images, what if I want to link them... I've had this problem a few times. Once I tried to post an image to a forum and it gave the same error. Its a bit of a pain and it took me hours to do a work around with by arranging with another person to host the images from their server. (sorry for the little rant, but these things annoy me)
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stephan
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2002, 04:08:00 PM » |
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Try using XML because I don't know. I think it is automatically supported.
You can't link to an image or file from another webpage on lunarpages if you have a trial account. This is to minimize abuse. Sorry, but that's how it will always be. If you need to do this, you should upgrade to a paid account.
The paid accounts display bandwidth statistics. The free ones don't because they use a different interface for managing your account. Most people don't need to know. If you do, perhaps you should think about upgrading.
The trial accounts have limited functionality because they are just a trail. Sorry.
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kahlan
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2002, 12:23:00 PM » |
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they never used to be a trial... they used to be a free 'service'.
recently I've lost faith in the ability of lunarpages so if I do decide to pay for my web hosting I doubt it will be through lunarpages... sorry guys, but there it is
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stephan
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2002, 04:26:00 PM » |
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Don't worry, it has just been renamed. It is still a free service.
Why have you lost faith in lunarpages?
Please tell us why so that we can solve the problem.
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kahlan
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2002, 11:14:00 AM » |
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Well you'll shut down peopls pages for going over the band width... but you won't build in a feature that will tell us free hosting users what band width we're actually using You keep changing things around excessively. The login for uploading has changed umpteen times in the last few months. It takes me twice as long to get to upload anything now because you have enormous images on the lunarpages home page, and now also on the free services log in page too, whereas before it was so quick (I've only got a 56k modem you know) quote Don't worry, it has just been renamed. It is still a free service.
Yes I know this, but notice I only hi-lighted the service part... When it was a free service and not a trial it was a lot better. |
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Max
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2002, 06:47:00 PM » |
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It is accounts like yours that take up all resources. By limiting the bandwidth. We have room for more trial users. Maybe it is time to delete someone of the abusers of the trial service.
/Max
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Ron Riddle
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2002, 12:10:00 AM » |
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The Trial accounts are set up in the exact same manner as they were when they were called "free" accounts. The only difference is that the name deter's warez sites from taking the time to attempt to abuse us, because "Trial" account infers that the account is temporary......It isn't.
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I will also add that at NO TIME...(including now) will we EVER service the free/trial accounts with the same gusto and or effort that we give our paid users....and frankly, if you don't understand why, then you also wouldn't understand the explaination, so I won't bother.
At NO time do we represent with our free service that we welcome or wish to hear snivilin drival from ppl that are un appreciative...
I beleive that in the time you spent with all of your complaining you most certainly could have found another free service to use that perhaps will suit your needs better, i suggest at this time you "Get busy" and find another service....
ShvlHD
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stephan
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2002, 04:39:00 PM » |
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Bandwidth is expensive.
All webhosting companies temporarily close down sites for going over bandwidth limits, Yahoo/Geocites, Xoom.com, absolutely everyone.
There is no choice. Someone has to pay for bandwidth and if they didn't close them down, the webhosting companies would go bankrupt, or have to close the service.
For example, xoom.com closed down for that reason.
As for changing things round, all we are trying to do is improve the service. Changes are very slight, limited and for the better!
The images are not enormous, I have a 56k modem and it is not a problem.
I do not know what you mean when you say that it was better when it was a free service and not a trial, there is no difference, apart from the bandwidth limitation, which had to be introduced as I have already explained.
You said originally "(not that I can afford to have a paid account)". If you can't afford it, then you are stuck with the trial service. If it's not good enough, then there is nothing we can do for you.
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