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« on: February 10, 2002, 06:09:00 AM »

I would like to get some feedback from some of youe that might know about excellent 'bullet proof hosting websites'.....

I need to have a website that will stay up no matter what using my own URL if possible, no bullshit companies that say they will deliver and don't.  This is not for anything illegal, I have some information I want to make available, and maybe sell as well, but I need a real bullet proof site that will allow me to use my own URL.  if that's not possible, than one that uses their URL will be OK.  Any feedback??
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2002, 08:48:00 AM »

What do you mean by "bullet proof webhosting". Do you mean a webhost which is reliable?

Try www.lunarpages.com

Why would you mention legality? What is your site about?
Lunarpages allows anything which isn't illegal to be hosted.

By "using your own url", do you mean using a domain name? Lunarpages allows this.

I hope this helps.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2002, 09:54:00 AM »

Please be more specific about what type of "bullet proof" you're looking for.

There are a few facilities in the DC area that are both figuratively and literally "bullet-proof" (the likes of which are the source of most businessguy pratter tossing about the nomenclature as if it's their own.)

The real ones offer intense security, including multi-level gateways with various scanners and identification systems restricting and monitoring access the physical servers. They house a seperate power supply that can generate electricity for several days.  The building itself usually at least meets DOD bomb shelter specifications, and the entranceways are barred with high-impact-resistant gates.  

Typically, their clients are government, high-risk databanks, or very high-dollar business.  (And the occasional wealthy paranoid.)  It isn't cheap. But if that's what you're looking for, reply, and I'll dig up the file.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2002, 10:00:00 PM »

Mark -- got your email and found the list pretty quickly after all.  There are only a few facilities on it.  Here are the ones I thought were best bets:

Digex          www.digex.com
Server Vault   www.servervault.com
Genuity        www.genuity.com

There's a place called Telenisus -- I noted the name but no details.  I think IBM and Exodus have divisions that offer similar services, but not sure (isn't Exodus having troubles? rings a bell).  Anyway, the above three are a good start.

And Stephan, don't get so excited -- as wonderful as Lunpages is, I don't think they're in or attempting to broach the business of providing this level of security and redundancy.  I hope not anyway, because I certainly can't afford it!

Good luck with your project, Mark.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2002, 06:06:00 AM »

Don't worry, I am not excited!

Lunarpages probably does not have servers underground with guard dogs etc, but it's ok!
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2002, 06:20:00 AM »

Hey.. We have a lock on the doors... hehe
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2002, 09:11:00 AM »

That's good enough, do people really want to attack sites that much?
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2002, 10:18:00 AM »

lol, if hackers attacked that way, we wouldn't have the scrawny geeks that are hackers, you'd have those big black zombie like guys.  Or that guy from the james bond movie, Gold Finger, Odd job or something like that.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2002, 10:34:00 PM »

Sounds like Hollywood, doesn't it? But it's real, and for some ppl it's necessary.  

Hackers who have the resources and serious motivation aren't very inhibited by a neato firewall and Joe Front Desk Security Guard.  And if the data they're after is relatively static, they always have the option of just unplugging a data server and walking out with it.

If your business involves transactions in the 10 or 100s of millions of dollars, or manages similarly tempting amounts of money, if you move or store materials that are difficult to obtain legally and/or anonymously, if your data requires a high level of clearance, if your data involves non-govt security issues, a high-profile person, a frequently targeted organization, or if a 24/7 uptime is especially imperative in a state of emergency, those places are a way to go.

Still, if I had sensitive data, I probably would not choose to run my front-end site directly from the same server, even if so housed.  

Luckily I don't have to worry about such things.  With just my little goofy DogPound, I feel pretty safe without thumb-print access.  

But to anybody does want to hack into it for some bizarre reason: don't waste your time banging down Lunarpages firewall.  I'll be delighted to sell you my entire site for half of what it'd cost to break into Digex.  
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2002, 03:48:00 PM »

I once had to replace an automotive computer that got shot.  It was in a 300ZX.  It wasn't bulletproof at all!
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