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« on: April 28, 2008, 09:17:00 PM »

to start off being honest here i dont realy know what im doing at all im making a website for a stupid school project so ive been working on it all this time in microsoft word which is all i have had available to me. How in the world am i supposed to get that onto my actual web page?
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2008, 05:01:57 AM »

Well you might want to go from Word to a program that is much more widely used for web design.  You can see a list of programs here:

http://blog.lunarpages.com/free-downloads/
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 07:14:22 AM »

seeing how it sounds like you've gotten in deeper than you wanted by doing the project in Word and how it seems you just want to get it over with and behind you, I suggest just saving your Word file as HTML, uploading the page (and images if there are any) and moving on (as opposed to completely re-doing the whole thing)

Then, since you can put that school project behind you - I suggest taking advantage of the free CoffeeCup software Lunarpages hooks new clients up with and using that in the future
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 07:29:39 AM »

Just to help clarify a little the CoffeeCup offer was discontinued a few months back.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 02:04:33 PM »

ok this is what ive done so far. I have a bunch of html documents that were made by word and a folder with their files for each one. i uploaded all the html files into my public folder but when i open it its nothing alike. i think this is because i dont have the folder with all the images or other things in it uploaded where would i put them.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 02:20:27 PM »

have you tried uploading the supporting folders as well? It's not going to make for a tidy web by any stretch of the imagination, but it should work that way.

Sorry about the misinformation on the CofeeCup offer
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 06:49:17 AM »

Could you give us a link or an example to look at?  You'll need to make sure you match up your folders and file paths with the location on the server. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2008, 08:11:07 AM »

Abandon Word at all costs. It is the absolute worst application to use when creating web pages.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 11:31:00 AM »

To build a simple site use wordpress.
You will be up in a day. (or so) (:
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 02:52:21 PM »

To build a simple site use wordpress.
You will be up in a day. (or so) (:

Is the object of this assignment to do HTML programming, or to show up with a useful site (the ends, not the means, are what matters)?

I agree that Word (and probably any other word processor) and MS Publisher are notorious for being terrible ways to create a site. There are plenty of WYSIWYG page editors (which you have been pointed to) that can do the job if you don't have the time/talent to dig into HTML/CSS/JavaScript programming.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2008, 04:50:25 PM »

i wish i had known word was trash before i started this but its a little too late for that as i have like a week max plus i have a job...and i know im a pain in the arse...sorry
could anyone give me instructions as to at least get the site to show up so i can show some progress i still have the blank placeholder thing on my page
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 04:54:13 PM »

To build a simple site use wordpress.
You will be up in a day. (or so) (:

Is the object of this assignment to do HTML programming, or to show up with a useful site (the ends, not the means, are what matters)?

I agree that Word (and probably any other word processor) and MS Publisher are notorious for being terrible ways to create a site. There are plenty of WYSIWYG page editors (which you have been pointed to) that can do the job if you don't have the time/talent to dig into HTML/CSS/JavaScript programming.

It wasn't intended to be a HTMl project or anything i just need the site to work.
i know basic html but dont really have the time to start over. if AT ALL possible i have to make it work the way i have it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 05:54:36 PM »

OK, so you went and used Word because you didn't know any better  Doh  and now you need to salvage what you have rather than starting over (because you're running out of runway). I haven't used Word myself to build a site, but I've seen the innards of sites built with Word or Publisher, and they are ugly.

So, you've edited a page or two with Word, and haven't tried manually editing the code? Hopefully you started with "blank web page" and saved the result as an .htm file. Make sure your filenames have NO blanks or other oddball characters in them. You should re-do them (and update the associated links) if you did. Did you get this far? The next step is to find all the files you just created in this project and upload them to the server. Assuming you're on a Basic plan (Linux) server, you can use any FTP client (should you already have one) or you can use the file upload function in cPanel > File Manager. For File Manager, navigate to the public_html directory by clicking on the folder icon (not the directory name). There will likely be a file called "index.html" which is the Lunarpages default "welcome" page. You'll need to upload all the files you created, keeping them in the same relative structure. If any subdirectories were created in your project, you will of course need to create them with the same name, and upload the appropriate files into them.

I already mentioned that Linux doesn't like Windows-style file names with blanks and strange characters in them (anything but A-Z, a-z, 0-9, _, and period (.)). Make sure your filenames and the names given in links match, and be aware that case matters (Index.htm is not the same file as index.htm). Finally, if a visitor just gives your domain name or a directory name on your site, the server will look for files in the following order: index.html, index.htm, and finally index.php.  First, you have to get rid of the existing index.html. Go into cPanel > File Manager and navigate to public_html. Click on the "index.html" name and choose the option to rename it. Change the name to "index.html.default" or something like that. If you created your Home page as "index.htm" or "index.html", you're done. Otherwise, you have to tell the system to go to your Home page. One way is to redirect from a dummy index file:

public_html/index.html
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<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=my_home_page.htm" />
<title>Redirect to Home Page</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>You should be taken immediately to my Home Page. If you aren't, click <a href="my_home_page.htm">here</a>
to be transferred.</p>
</body>
</html>

Another way would be to add the following line to your public_html/.htaccess file:
Code:
DirectoryIndex my_home_page.htm index.html index.htm index.php

Hopefully that should get your page up and running...
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 09:19:13 PM »

omg call me retarded but this post actually clicked with me and i got the front page to actually come up...in some fashion. how do i make upload my folder of files for the front page. this folder has the background and pictures and music that plays in the background in it. it looks like i can only upload one picture or item at a time  Hypno any way to uload the whole folder?
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2008, 04:31:57 PM »

Some FTP programs (clients) can upload entire folders at once, but the cPanel File Manager apparently can do only one at a time. Just keep plugging at it, doing one file at a time, and you'll get there. Make sure that you create the folder (directory) first (with exactly the right name) and then navigate to it, before trying to upload files to it. You don't want to end up with all your files in one directory, or otherwise have the wrong arrangement.
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