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VladimirR
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« on: December 11, 2009, 06:21:23 PM »
Hi,
 I have recently gotten into an idea of starting up my own small website. Don't get me wrong here, I know how to code a page, but I have never dealt with website hosting or servers. I can code a website complex enough for my liking and I was not expecting it to be that hard to host until I read the support forum section. The front page section alone has so much unknown to me. Am I jumping a step here? Should I try and read up on it more, should I just experiment with it or whats up? I read that to setup forums you need to install mSQL Database which I have no idea how to.

My question in a sentence is can I start making my website right away if I can code the pages or should I read more about other technical stuff before I do so.


Thank you for reading and hoping for a quick response Smile
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Matthew Alan
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 06:28:45 PM »
Forums require MySQL databases, but you can one-click install some of them, or others is just as simple as creating a database, inputting the information, and clicking "install".

Since setting up a database seems to be what you're worried about, its pretty much as simple as this for most scripts;
-Login to LPCP/cPanel
-Select "MySQL"
-Enter a database name and save it
-Enter a user and password, save it
-Add the user to the database
-Go to whatever you're installing, enter the above information.

You're done!

This is also a good place to look for information: http://wiki.lunarpages.com/Main_Page
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VladimirR
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 07:03:27 PM »
Thanks for the information. I still remain somewhat puzzled on how much technical knowledge excluding the creation of the page itself I would need to make a complete working website with nothing too complicated.

Thank you on such a fast response by the way.

PS: I did the questionaire on what would suit me best and it said Windows hosting and after looking into it, seems to be a good choice. Any advice/ideas on that based on my questions?
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 07:59:14 PM »
What exactly do you plan to do? The only advantage of Windows(I know of), is certain abilities to run Windows-related programs/apps.

If its a basic website, forum, or something similar you'll be fine on the Basic.
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darkwolf
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 04:34:21 AM »
From a technical standpoint, unless you plan on using MSsql databases, access databases, Asp.net or other windows specific technologies, I would recommend using a basic/personal/linux based account.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 10:15:36 PM »
When you mention that you know how to technically develop websites, what are you developing these in specifically? If it is mainly HTML/xHTML and CSS, it really makes zero difference what platform you choose for the sites.

If it is in a specific language, then the platform would depend on the language. PHP and Perl can run on either Windows or Linux, but PHP tends to be updated more on the Linux side for the newer PHP releases. ASP.net would require Windows (anything .NET would). If you want Ruby using Rails framework, you would have to select Linux as we do not provide it on Windows. Linux provides MySQL and PostgreSQL for the databases and Windows provides MySQL and MSSQL.

I recommend what works for what you are using for the site. If you are using only markup languages or PHP and MySQL, then Linux is the cheaper and better way to go. You will find more people on this forum who are familiar with Linux and more how-tos to help you.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 07:41:25 PM »
Quote from: Tristan on December 12, 2009, 10:15:36 PM
When you mention that you know how to technically develop websites, what are you developing these in specifically? If it is mainly HTML/xHTML and CSS, it really makes zero difference what platform you choose for the sites.

If it is in a specific language, then the platform would depend on the language. PHP and Perl can run on either Windows or Linux, but PHP tends to be updated more on the Linux side for the newer PHP releases. ASP.net would require Windows (anything .NET would). If you want Ruby using Rails framework, you would have to select Linux as we do not provide it on Windows. Linux provides MySQL and PostgreSQL for the databases and Windows provides MySQL and MSSQL.

I recommend what works for what you are using for the site. If you are using only markup languages or PHP and MySQL, then Linux is the cheaper and better way to go. You will find more people on this forum who are familiar with Linux and more how-tos to help you.
Thanks for clearing those points out. Yes as you mentioned, I can code in htlm/xhtml mainly. I was looking to learn more if i needed once I start getting into it more.

The reason why I was going for Windows I suppose is because It recommended something with an interface familiar to you. And to be honest from experience I tend to incline towards paying a little more for a better service rather then finding out im missing something I would need (the cost is not a problem for me so to speak).

Thank you all for the help I will read some how-tos and get started on a website. Smile
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 11:26:53 AM »
Quote from: VladimirR on December 13, 2009, 07:41:25 PM
The reason why I was going for Windows I suppose is because It recommended something with an interface familiar to you. And to be honest from experience I tend to incline towards paying a little more for a better service rather then finding out im missing something I would need (the cost is not a problem for me so to speak).

I would suggest paying a bit less and getting a far better site by using Linux (Basic or Business plan). Frankly, Linux + Apache server delivers a more capable and stable platform than Windows + IIS -- at lower cost (no MS license fees). Not to mention that LP's support seems to be much more experienced with Linux support than Windows.

As suggested by @Tristan, go Windows only if it provides something that you absolutely, positively can't do without -- say, MSSQL, or .Net services. That means that you've already selected the underlying technology, to support a given application you've chosen to use, or that your developer is comfortable with. If starting a basic (X)HTML/CSS/JS site, go with Linux -- there's absolutely no advantage to using Windows.
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 01:58:35 AM »
Quote from: VladimirR on December 13, 2009, 07:41:25 PM
The reason why I was going for Windows I suppose is because It recommended something with an interface familiar to you. And to be honest from experience I tend to incline towards paying a little more for a better service rather then finding out im missing something I would need (the cost is not a problem for me so to speak).

Not sure this would be applicable. You "would" be on a Windows based machine but would be using the Plesk control panel. You would not really be seeing anything like a windows environment because all things are pretty much done via Plesk. If you don't require things like MS SQL or ASP.NET I would recommend the Basic/Business Plan even though they are Linux based. With these accounts you will be managing the site/account using the LPCP or cPanel control panel and not directly in the Linux environment.

Linux and Windows are the server OS's but not the visual environment you will be working in. That's dependent on the control panel.
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