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« on: December 13, 2009, 05:34:42 AM »

Ok so i signed up for the quicksite,but unfortunately it doesn't give me the flexibility that i require.

I like the lunar experience and the service is second to none.

Before i sign up for the basic package i need a little help with the following questions: (bear in mind that my site building knowledge is VERY limited)

Do i have to use C Panel to build my site?

Can i use other software to build my site,preferably something that enable me to move and place things where i want them,and hopefully, freeware that is simple and easy for a newb like me!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

My current provider Piczo has a very simple page editor,but piczo will not allow certain applications to be used on their sites

Ideally i would like to build my lunar site similar to my piczo site,but obviously my lunar site would have a lot more content.

if you wish to have a look at my site the have a look here -   neworderinfoweb.piczo.com  and tell me what you think .

regards

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 06:59:15 AM »

Ok so i signed up for the quicksite,but unfortunately it doesn't give me the flexibility that i require.
Template-driven prefabbed sites are nice, if they match what you want to do. If they aren't quite what you want, you're out of luck. You have to do a little programming yourself.

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Do i have to use C Panel to build my site?

Can i use other software to build my site,preferably something that enable me to move and place things where i want them,and hopefully, freeware that is simple and easy for a newb like me!
You sound confused. cPanel (or LPCP) has nothing to do with "building your site". It is a collection of tools to set up and manage your account, but it doesn't create a site. You can certainly use the File Manager to upload or edit files, but you'll find it much easier in the long run to edit on your PC and use an FTP client to upload/download files.

What you are looking for is a "WYSIWYG" (What You See Is What You Get) page editor to build HTML and CSS for your page. There are many of these around, ranging from free (Nvu, Page Mason) to quite expensive (Expression Web, Dreamweaver). Page Mason is free from Lunarpages. Note that they produce static pages -- just HTML and maybe CSS. If you want dynamic content (such as using a database) you need to use a scripting language, such as PHP, and that involves real programming (not simple). You might want to look at CMSs (Content Management Systems) such as Drupal, Joomla, or WordPress. They enable you to create somewhat dynamic pages in a WYSIWYG editing style, but again, you may find yourself limited by what's in their templates.

TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch). The more flexibility you demand in the appearance and function of your pages, the more likely you'll have to dive into actual programming. If you're lucky, you can get a template author to modify a template to do what you want, but unless you pay them for it, they'll be free to distribute it to others.

There are other canned applications (eStores, blogs, forums, galleries) that work independently of each other, and can be installed into one site (each in their own subdirectory). You just create a "Landing Page" to introduce the site and provide links to the other applications.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 11:13:47 AM »

Ok so i signed up for the quicksite,but unfortunately it doesn't give me the flexibility that i require.
Template-driven prefabbed sites are nice, if they match what you want to do. If they aren't quite what you want, you're out of luck. You have to do a little programming yourself.

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Do i have to use C Panel to build my site?

Can i use other software to build my site,preferably something that enable me to move and place things where i want them,and hopefully, freeware that is simple and easy for a newb like me!
You sound confused. cPanel (or LPCP) has nothing to do with "building your site". It is a collection of tools to set up and manage your account, but it doesn't create a site. You can certainly use the File Manager to upload or edit files, but you'll find it much easier in the long run to edit on your PC and use an FTP client to upload/download files.

What you are looking for is a "WYSIWYG" (What You See Is What You Get) page editor to build HTML and CSS for your page. There are many of these around, ranging from free (Nvu, Page Mason) to quite expensive (Expression Web, Dreamweaver). Page Mason is free from Lunarpages. Note that they produce static pages -- just HTML and maybe CSS. If you want dynamic content (such as using a database) you need to use a scripting language, such as PHP, and that involves real programming (not simple). You might want to look at CMSs (Content Management Systems) such as Drupal, Joomla, or WordPress. They enable you to create somewhat dynamic pages in a WYSIWYG editing style, but again, you may find yourself limited by what's in their templates.

TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch). The more flexibility you demand in the appearance and function of your pages, the more likely you'll have to dive into actual programming. If you're lucky, you can get a template author to modify a template to do what you want, but unless you pay them for it, they'll be free to distribute it to others.

There are other canned applications (eStores, blogs, forums, galleries) that work independently of each other, and can be installed into one site (each in their own subdirectory). You just create a "Landing Page" to introduce the site and provide links to the other applications.

I,m sure i have missed something or am lost in translation.

I am a newb and i dont understand how to code HTML and stuff like that,i did go for the quicksite because i thought it would be as easy as my current piczo site/page editor,i was obviously wrong!

A friend did recommend wysiwyg,but i dont know what it is or what it does!
Can i get /use something here on lunar which would enable me to use and build a basic page?

help me i know not where i am!


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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 02:12:34 PM »

A friend did recommend wysiwyg,but i dont know what it is or what it does!
What You See Is What You Get is a visual editor -- drag and drop, etc. rather than typing in HTML code.

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Can i get /use something here on lunar which would enable me to use and build a basic page?
With the basic plan you get Page Mason, which is LP's WYSIWYG page editor. Be aware that such an editor is very limited in its capabilities -- you can't get data from a database, for instance. For anything fancier than a static page means either using a CMS, or programming it yourself.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 09:47:41 AM »

A friend did recommend wysiwyg,but i dont know what it is or what it does!
What You See Is What You Get is a visual editor -- drag and drop, etc. rather than typing in HTML code.

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Can i get /use something here on lunar which would enable me to use and build a basic page?
With the basic plan you get Page Mason, which is LP's WYSIWYG page editor. Be aware that such an editor is very limited in its capabilities -- you can't get data from a database, for instance. For anything fancier than a static page means either using a CMS, or programming it yourself.

thanks for that!

I think i am getting the gist of things now,just neep to swap  the quicksite to the basic plan!  Wink

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