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george_d
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« on: September 05, 2009, 07:08:44 PM »

I'm looking for a windows VPS/Dedicated sever to be used for running automated Forex/Stocks trading software 24/7 (actually 24/5, since markets are closed at weekends). My current location has unreliable internet and electricity.

My main concern is security - i dont mean from external sources like hackers, viruses, etc. I mean from within lunar pages. Obviously this server would hold sensitive material.

So my question is:
1. I understand that with a VPS, even if I change admin password for windows, lunar pages still has access to windows through the virtualization software?
2. If I get a dedicated server and change the admin password, will lunar pages still have access?
3. How does backup work? Does the backup software login to windows?

Thanks in advance.
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SilviuB
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 02:30:40 AM »

LP will always have access to your files.
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george_d
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 03:37:02 AM »

Even if I get a dedicated server and change all passwords (including admin)? How will they have access then?
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 05:25:15 AM »

I think you're forgetting one main thing - where is the server located? LP's datacenter - therefor, even if you somehow managed to lock them out, they still have access to the server, hard drive, etc.

Also, i'm not sure if it was LP or some other host that required for you to always have an up-to-date admin password on file.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 06:07:52 AM »

I am not forgetting that... That's solvable. I can put anything important in a truecrypt container or something like that. They can't phisically connect to a drive without disconnecting it. Hence anything in the container remains encrypted. Only u to get to it is while it's mounted. And for that they need login/pass or to hack to the system... So a windows installation with my own admin passwords should be good enough... in theory. Or am I wrong?
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 07:03:14 AM »

Well, IMHO, "Windows" and "security" really don't belong in the same sentence Smile LP having access is the least of your worries.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 04:45:12 AM »

Yes that os wright ... I don't think LunarPages will violate the privacy of their client.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 07:37:19 AM »

My current location has unreliable internet and electricity.

If you look around on this forum at the complaints against LP, I'm not sure they're a great improvement in connectivity and availability. I think you would be penny wise and pound foolish to put such a high-stakes mission-critical application in an LP datacenter -- they just don't seem to fully have it together yet. I'm assuming that even dedicated servers would suffer from the same power and net problems (e.g., frequent DoS attacks) as do the shared servers. If you're doing forex and stock trading, I think enough money is involved that you should search for a more reliable (and expensive) host, or even build your own datacenter. Security is not going to be as much of a worry if your systems are down or your members can't get through.

As for security itself, any time you turn over your physical machines to another company, you risk their being able to snoop on your customers and trades. I would presume that LP is as ethical as any other general purpose hosting service, but at some point in the process (in the server), your data needs to be in the clear. If you're that concerned about it, you need to build and run the datacenter yourself, with custom-built physical and electronic security systems and a staff that you've checked out.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 08:19:00 AM »

I do not believe you would have any issues getting this type of setup done.  I would highly encourage you though to e-mail dedicated@lunarpages.com to take your questions right to the people who will be handling your account - they will be a little more knowledgeable than the forum members here on what security measurements are taken in a dedicated hosting environment.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 09:30:08 PM »

If this type of software is very crucial and you want to ensure it's uptime, I think you should go with a dedicated server definitely, that way nobody can screw it up on the software side other than a tech or you personally.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2009, 07:57:45 AM »

You should be less interested in keeping Lunar Pages out of your box and more interested in focusing on making $$$

If you are a total security nut and are making gobs of money trading I suggest go to a full managed box with a full security audit.

I have used Total Security Solutions in the past, they setup and harden your box and then keep it all patched up nice and tight.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2009, 07:04:50 AM »

i agree with mich Friend
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