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« on: January 18, 2005, 02:04:50 PM » |
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Little annoucement on phpbb forum. just to make one thing clear: it's not out yet Did that cause you to miss a heart beat? Smile Good, it did its job then. So what's this all about? Well the next release will not be version 2.2. Instead it's taking the codename "Olympus" and will, upon release have the version number 3.0.0. Each new release, at least each new minor revision update will take a codename.
Why are we renumbering? Well I'm sure some will say it's a ploy to try and "compete" with other boards. Many of which have upped their version numbers to stay "competitive". However this is not the core reason for our decision.
We use the kernel numbering scheme. The methodology of that requires the major number to change when backward compatibility is broken. That's the case with the new release. Not one style will work "as is", practically no Mods will function. Even the language file contents and structure are completely different. This warrants, in our opinion cause to increment the major number. NB: An upgrade script will obviously be provided (and is currently in beta test) enabling you to upgrade your existing 2.x database to 3.0.0.
It also reduces concern amongst our support teams coping with people noting issues with "phpBB2". A major version increment differentiates clearly between 2.x and this new release.
So to reiterate very clearly, the next major release of phpBB, now 3.0.0 "Olympus" is still en-route. We are very unlikely to hit the initial window for the beta release. I would anticipate instead a late-Feb/early-March release. The final feature list is complete and work progresses on implementing as much of this as possible. Such items include (but are not limited to):
Warning system Completion of report system Completion of "new" module system and updating of ACP/UCP/MCP modules Styling Permissions
and a number of other minor and more significant items. Of these the ACP poses the biggest component.
I can confirm that "Olympus" will feature an entirely new style produced by Tom "subblue" Bebbard, designer of subSilver. This new style will not ship with the beta, it will not ship with the release candidates. It will only ship with 3.x. This is to prevent the same situation occuring with the new style as happened with 2.x ... designers copying the style for other boards, diluting the "wow factor" upon phpBB 2's release. Such boards can go find themselves a top flight designer if they so wish. I will however say I think you'll like the new style Smile
We are also considering continuing development of the 2.x line (codename yet to be decided Smile). We understand that some people will not upgrade to 3.x, they like the reduced complexity and lower feature count of 2.x ... it does "what they want" so to speak. The 2.x line would see us continue bug fixing along with the introduction, where appropriate, of elements coded for the 3.x line. Such elements could see speed and security enhancements being introduced. While retaining compatibility with the majority of Mods and styles. I say again this is not a "for sure" but it is a probability.
Keep an eye on the announcements forum (or sign up to our mailing list) for further information on phpBB 3.0.0 "Olympus". this is going to get interesting.... But I'll guess with all my mods installed it's not going to be a fast n' easy move...
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Lupine1647
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2005, 02:42:53 PM » |
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yea, sounds like they re-did everything from scratch.
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GMTurner
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2005, 03:12:31 PM » |
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Oh boy... interesting is an understatement.... my big questions at this particular point:
1) What will happen to support for phpBB2, especially in terms of security patches, after the phpBB3 release?
2) What sort of challenges will the poor people who have added lots of mods to phpBB2 end up doing since the old mods won't work with 3?
3) When will Fantastico get around to updating to 3?
Of course, since I don't use phpBB I'm too lazy to try and find these answers myself...
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Lupine1647
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2005, 03:19:09 PM » |
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1) They said that they will still work on version 2.
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deadly_risk
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2005, 03:21:43 PM » |
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mm, wonder if the code will be as efficiant and easy on the server 
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JamesG
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2005, 04:12:43 PM » |
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i would think so, gonna have to go back to making my own mods though 
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psykik
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2005, 01:43:27 AM » |
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Oh boy... interesting is an understatement.... my big questions at this particular point:
1) What will happen to support for phpBB2, especially in terms of security patches, after the phpBB3 release?
2) What sort of challenges will the poor people who have added lots of mods to phpBB2 end up doing since the old mods won't work with 3?
3) When will Fantastico get around to updating to 3?
Of course, since I don't use phpBB I'm too lazy to try and find these answers myself... 1) well it says they will keep giving support for v2. since the v3 will be completely new I guess a lot of people will (certainly at the beginning) stick to v2. I know I am ! too many mods I can't affort to remove for the moment. 2) ..... jep... We'll see. I'm very very curious on that template system. I've always been to lazy to make my own. maybe with the new system (if not too complicated) I might give it a try 3) I never use fantastico... I prefer my own setup and passwords for the setup..
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Adrian
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2005, 02:38:26 AM » |
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Heh, this is going to be a nightmare when the time comes.
I have five boards that are integrated with each other, allowing users to post on them all with one account. Aside from the code being modded, for it to work properly I have had to add some extra rows to the user table for handling session times on the different boards.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'm not looking forward to having to remake the template files either.
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psykik
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2005, 08:50:51 AM » |
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indeed aah well... I'll be interested in running a new forum just to test it out...
hey nice thing you got running there adrian enabling people to post on different forums with their same information...
does the avatar, preferences, postcount is the same for both forums as well ?
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Neco
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2005, 02:32:46 PM » |
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I'm banking on whatever they put out to finally include a good easy skinning system. Then maybe I'll switch back over.
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JamesG
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2005, 03:47:37 PM » |
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i will install it and see how it works, get used to it, add a few mods, and eventually figure out how to use it properly, maybe convert one forum over to it... if it works, use it but keep the v2 also connected incase...
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2005, 10:49:34 PM » |
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I would probably recommend staying with an older phpbb 2 board with security hacks... 3, will no doubt, like all phpbb version be full of problems!
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JamesG
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2005, 04:13:21 AM » |
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phpbb have a incredibly small ammount of problems actually, you can't expect anything that popular to go without being hacked.
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Adrian
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2005, 08:44:03 AM » |
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...enabling people to post on different forums with their same information...
does the avatar, preferences, postcount is the same for both forums as well ? Yup. All admins can admin all boards. All users and profiles shared (post count, avatars etc). PM system works accross all boards. Usergroups work across all boards. Banlinst shared (banned users, URLs, emails & word filters apply to all boards). There were quite a few snags to get it all working properly though.
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