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Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« on: October 21, 2009, 10:09:10 AM »
Ok i have recently contacted Lunarpages and i have no clue what so ever about everything,  :rofl:

So, My first and foremost problem were about my Websites download speed. I mean seriously if i upload a High quality Video that streams in 1.5Mbit and you only get 3-400 maybe 600kbitps people wont come back...  But enough about that i'm just repeating myself so they suggested VPS.

Yeah sure it looks good but... Will i be able to work with Dreamweaver on it, And Only 20GB? Thats crazy for those money, i have so many high quality videos planned for my website plus my upload feature on my site. So then its Dedicated but i dont get it whats the difference between Linux and Windows? Oh and by the way the only package within my range is "Dedicated I" But 99$ and 134$ is still a crazy amount if you dont own a business.

Any experienced person that have changed from Personal Hosting to VPS or Dedicated that could give me some tip would be great! Thanks!
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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 10:54:58 AM »
Sounds like storage and throughput are your main concerns.  I checked out your web site, and it doesn't appear you would need any other resources besides storage and throughput.

I don't think you get better throughput with VPS vs Shared plans and Shared plans offer unlimited storage.

The shared plan = 2,000 Mbit Connectivity (Although this is likely a shared amount, so at peak hours this is probably much less )

The VPS plan = 100 Mbit Connectivity

Unsure about Dedicated...

The advantage that most users seek when upgrading to VPS from a shared server is the "dedicated/allocated" processor/memory resources and more flexible server configurations.  If you are running scripts that take lots of processor power or memory, eventually they'll kick you off the shared servers.

If shared server admins aren't telling you that your site it using too many resources, and if you don't know why or how you could take advantage of the VPS plan's ability to configure your server, than I suggest you stick with the shared plan.

Also, remember your connection to the Internet and the experience you receive is often highly dependent on your ISP and the traffic on the Internet in general.  Even though you have a broadband connection, you might get less than optimal throughput during peak usage times.




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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 11:15:32 AM »
I seriously need to think this over, I'm not really running any scripts like that though i will add a Flash player soon. But thats about it... I dunno i will contact Lunarpages one last time and ask them about server change. Maybe there is a server where my website works better...

Anyway thanks for the information!  :D
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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 11:53:55 AM »
I must say that your speed issue probably has a whole lot more to do with your own location and bandwidth through your isp. I tried several of the videos and the throughput was reported at 4000 to 6500. I would poll your userbase as to what they are seeing and where they are before considering any changes.

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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 12:10:18 PM »
Wow seriously? God dammit what the hell am i paying for....  :whip:

Thanks for heads up...
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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 04:44:33 PM »
There are so many places to host video, why fool with doing it yourself?

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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 07:18:48 PM »
I thought of one more thing.  IF the available throughput of the shared servers does diminish to the point that it's unacceptable during peak hours AND the VPS server option performs better during those times because you have some guaranteed throughput, you might want to have both a shared server account and a VPS. (But I'm not sure that is really the case...I too feel your ISP is more likely the culprit)

Use the VPS (with 20 GB storage) to run your site, and host the "current" video files.  Then, keep the shared account for archiving your older videos.  This combo should solve both your issues of throughput during peak hours, and unlimited data storage without having to spend lots of $$$. 

I would get someone at Lunarpages to explain the "Connectivity" of the Shared plan vs. VPS plan
 - AND -
make sure it's not just your ISP having issues...

...before you do anything.

-Also more than likely your FLASH video player script will run entirely client side. 

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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 11:00:22 PM »
Hello,

So about connection differences between shared, VPS and dedicated servers. All servers are connected to 100 Mb/s ports. 2Gb/s is uplink speed of switch with servers which allows each server to utilize its connection at full speed, 100 Mb/s, without affecting others. The available bandwidth gets shared between all customers on VPS or shared server. Being on dedicated server, you can utilize all resources of its connection.

It would be TOS violation to host  files only on shared server as shared TOS specifies that there should be a site on the account and the space can't be used as just a data storage. If you expect large number of visitors for your site, I wouldn't recommend using VPS as it can't serve big amount of concurrent requests due to available amount of resources. VPS would increase the download times only for small amount of clients viewing your videos.  If you would like to see speed improvement for multiple downloads, I would recommend hosting videos on a dedicated server. Otherwise, 3rd party hosting for video files is the only way to speed up retrival of large files.
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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 03:41:35 AM »
Ok that cleared things up, I will just have to live with a Shared server for now. And when i feel i can afford it, upgrade to a dedicated server...

And about the question why i do it myself? Simple... A Website dependet on a another website video-ish is not a way to attract people.  :D

Blogs is ok, but Websites like mine should be able to stand on their own leg.

Anyway Cheers for the help guys!  :D
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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 10:33:57 PM »

Anytime!
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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2011, 06:46:21 AM »
I think that's a good decision in there Radeon. If it really is important to upgrade to a dedicated server, then do it.
Just make sure benefit exceeds cost!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 07:04:16 AM »
-There is no big difference between VPS and dedicated (there should not be).The thing with the VPS is that you have part of the server resources for your needs and with the dedicated it is not obligatory as these resources may vary depending on the server type, its configuration and the other users installed currently.
-A VPS in a virtual server within a server. A semidedicated is a special case of shared hosting. for more detail about selection of vps or dedicated server i would suggest to read this briefed article i hope it would be helpful <another hosting company article>

« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 07:53:39 AM by MrPhil »

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Re: Do i really need VPS or Dedicated?
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2015, 02:43:52 AM »
I would say you're starting to approach the limits of shared hosting, though you might be fine for a while longer. The next logical step would be a VPS, no need for a dedicated yet, but you would probably experience quite a speed increase and upgrading for a long time. Make sure you get cpanel or some other control panel with the VPS and go through it. You don't sound like you are really using a ton so a good shared host should be able to handle it especially if they customize plans and have high-end hardware.

 

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