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Offline chakoteh

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Image Hosting, 3rd party Image posting, readability, etc.
« on: July 02, 2017, 11:57:14 AM »
Perhaps some of you have heard about Photobucket's recent changes that stop free posting of the [img] code for images to show up at websites, blogs, etc.  I am co-owner of a lunar pages hosted website:  marvelousartworks.com where we have thousands of images hosted on photobucket.  we are now faced with the possibility of broken links which will essentially shut down our website.  We are a teaching forum for PaintShop Pro, so being able to see images is critical.  We are searching for alternatives to "image hosting" sites.

Ideally, we would love to put all images on our own site, so I though I'd start with Lunar Pages to see if there is a way to get a website with lunar pages that does nothing but host our lessons (some 800+ with images).  The other owner of the site has some knowledge of FTP, ACP, utilizing PhPBB features, but neither of us knows how to possibly get ALL our images and lessons to the MA site, so I'm looking at what if we get another site JUST for lessons and image hosting.

The biggest problem we are facing (other than the time it takes to move 1000's of images) is organization.  At Photobucket, each lesson is inside a sub folder--as in say: "PSP Lessons" is a folder that contains sub-folders just for PSP lessons. there may be 5-10 subfolders for increasingly hard lessons, and inside each of the lesson folders would be 25-30 folders named according to the lesson. The images in that folder can easily be identified by name as coming from that sub-folder.  there are Many many screenshots that accompany our lessons.

We do NOT want to learn html, code, all the technical stuff to "build" a web page to facilitate this.  We are too old and brain addled to learn all of that so we want something like drag and drop or simple instructions IF Lunar pages has a way to help us achieve our goal of getting a dedicated web page that holds JUST OUR LESSON information and images.

Do you have hosting options that we could use to set up our lessons--complete with images AND in a way that makes it EASY to see the images and know where they are in the design of the web page? lesson page?

It is difficult when you don't even know enough to properly ask a question  :help:
thank you
Vikki

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Re: Image Hosting, 3rd party Image posting, readability, etc.
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2017, 05:00:40 PM »
Maybe I'm not understanding what all your problems with hosting are, but it sounds like your LP account should be able to handle all this. Just out of curiosity, why did you put your images on PB in the first place? LP has long had unlimited space (within reason), so long as all your files directly pertain to your website. If your current site is running on LP (except for the images), I would think it not a major increase in load to also serve up the images (if it is, you might have to upgrade your hosting plan). You can organize your directory structure however you want, presumably mirroring your current PB structure. Wherever your file paths and names are (database or hard coded in HTML), you would need to modify them to reflect the new location. If it was done right in the first place, it could be as simple as changing one place (and all the individual files are relative to one base location). If the full PB href is hard coded in a million places, it will be quite a bit of work. I don't know what interface PB has to retrieve your files, or if they're already on a PC, but FTP can be used to set up the directory structure and upload the files.

Unless your files are huge, it sounds to me like it could all be hosted on your LP account. If you're worried about it, open a support ticket and discuss in detail how much data you would be adding to your account, and see if support thinks you may need to upgrade immediately. Maybe you can try moving your stuff over, and if you get dinged for excessive server load, be ready to upgrade quickly.
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Re: Image Hosting, 3rd party Image posting, readability, etc.
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 03:58:39 PM »
First, thanks for replying, MrPhil.

Why did we put our images on PB in the first place?  (see what I said about us being older and unable to "get" what people try to tell us about things) We all used PB to post images personally, so we just started using it for our lesson images because we knew HOW TO do that.

If your current site is running on LP (except for the images), I would think it not a major increase in load to also serve up the images (if it is, you might have to upgrade your hosting plan). You can organize your directory structure however you want, presumably mirroring your current PB structure. Wherever your file paths and names are (database or hard coded in HTML), you would need to modify them to reflect the new location. If it was done right in the first place, it could be as simple as changing one place (and all the individual files are relative to one base location). If the full PB href is hard coded in a million places, it will be quite a bit of work. I don't know what interface PB has to retrieve your files, or if they're already on a PC, but FTP can be used to set up the directory structure and upload the files. WHAT??? I have no idea what you are talking about--see, that is part of our problem.  However, I do understand that we can organize our directory structure mirroring how we do it at PB-- I just don't know HOW to do that.

Unless your files are huge, it sounds to me like it could all be hosted on your LP account. If you're worried about it, open a support ticket and discuss in detail how much data you would be adding to your account, and see if support thinks you may need to upgrade immediately. Maybe you can try moving your stuff over, and if you get dinged for excessive server load, be ready to upgrade quickly.
Yeah, IF WE KNEW WHAT / HOW to do it, I wouldn't be here asking silly questions.

We have some 10,000 images to move (1.6GB) so no small task, though we all get the journey of 10k miles begins with the first step.

Based on what you have said, we have decided to get my computer guy involved, maybe thru team viewer so he can show us how to do some of this stuff.

I appreciate your taking the time to shine some light on what can be done using LP.  My computer guy asked the same thing you did (why are we using PB?) we were fine with PB until they decided to become greedy and since all links will break when this goes into effect, best we learn how to get the images and lessons onto our LP hosted site.

it is just the whole "code thing" that we just do not know and talking about file paths and names are (database or hard coded in HTML) that sends us into a tail spin and we don't just "want it done" because we need to understand enough to fix things should things go wrong

anyway, thanks again, Kathy will talk with LP to see if adding 1.6GB in images and texts will require more bandwidth and we will plod along trying to figure things out.
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Vikki

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Re: Image Hosting, 3rd party Image posting, readability, etc.
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 05:38:24 PM »
Hello MrPhil...

I am the owner of the above mentioned forum. I also wanted to say thank you for giving us some direction.

We are older and inexperienced ladies, but I was able to create our index page at http://marvelousartworks.com/ just from Google searches and some help from Chakoteh's computer friend, so I am sure we can figure this out.

I believe I understand what you are saying, but really don't know where to start.

I appreciate your help. We will check with Lunarpages about the bandwidth... but, I believe we are okay with what we have, but will upgrade as needed.

Oh, the reason we never used Lunarpages for our graphics is because we didn't realize until I created the index page that we could do that. But, I am still unsure how we would do that for our graphics lessons.

Thank you again.

Kathy aka Angel

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Re: Image Hosting, 3rd party Image posting, readability, etc.
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2017, 01:42:21 PM »
Hi Kathy,

1.6GB over 10,000 or so files sounds reasonable for your LP account to handle. Depending on how many visitors you have, and how much of a demand they make on images, it's certainly possible that you will need to upgrade your hosting plan. I hope not, but keep that in the back of your mind, just in case.

The first thing would be to make a copy of all your images on a PC, for safekeeping (a backup). I don't know how you uploaded to PB and whether you can grab the whole thing in one FTP "download", but I hope you don't have to individually transfer each file! If you can get FTP access to the "root" (bottom) of the PB directory structure, you can use an FTP client such as FileZilla to download to the PC with one command. If you can't do that, there still may be some sort of "bulk download to your PC" feature in PB, to reduce the amount of labor.

Once you have all your image files on a PC (keep them as a backup), hopefully already in some sort of "tree" directory structure, they can be uploaded to your LP account in one operation. Pick a place such as /lessons/images as the new root. The final step will be to modify your lesson code (whatever that's written in) to point to the new (local) address rather than to PB. If you have a PB URL hard coded into each place, that will be a lot of editing -- you may want to have your computer friend get a copy of all the lesson code onto a PC, and bulk edit it to change all the PB hrefs from http://photobucket.com/dir/dir/... to just /lessons/images/... Or, if you're using PHP or ASP or some other programming language, it may be very few places to change. If you've got all these image file paths stored in a database, you could export the database to .sql text, bulk edit that, and import it back in. I don't know what your lessons code looks like, but your computer friend ought to be able to figure it out. Just a suggestion not to hard code the full path into each href, but just the offset from the common base, and add (as a prefix) the local root in code (unless it's all hard coded HTML!). This will make the job easier in the future if you ever need to move again.

Good luck and best wishes! I'm sure that if you managed to set up such a site in the first place, that between the three of you, you can figure out how to get your images locally hosted, without having to retype every single entry. If you need to change every single entry, once you get the lesson code files onto a PC you can use a tool like "sed" or write a little Perl script to change files in bulk. Your computer friend should be able to figure that out. Bring all your image files over first, make a backup of your current lesson and site code, and then modify the code to look for images in the new place.
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Re: Image Hosting, 3rd party Image posting, readability, etc.
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2017, 06:51:49 PM »
MrPhil... that is a wealth of great information. We will see what we can do with what you said and hope things work out.

Thank you so much.

Kathy



 

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