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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2003, 06:47:00 AM »

I do like that code/wysiwyg split view... very nice... I keep getting frustrated with my old frontpage habbits... I can see already that DW is much better, I just keep trying to do things they way I did in Frontpage...

Anyway, I just picked up the book Foundation Dreamweaver MX (published by Friendsof) to help me along. It's covers basic frontpage functions and has a solid PHP/MySQL intro and tutorial... the book suggests installing Apache and PHP on my computer... which I have no problem doing, I just remember reading somewhere that this could lead to some security concerns. I ONLY want it to run as a local server.

Any thoughts on this issue would be nice.

Thanks

PS... the book is suggesting installing version 1.3.26 of Apache (for Windows) and the latest of PHP.
 
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2003, 07:17:00 AM »

It's true, installing mySQL and Apache or any kind of service can cause serious security problems.

Lunarpages already provides mySQL and Apache, I think it would be a better idea to use lunarpages.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2003, 08:43:00 AM »

You don't have to run Apache.  php will install fine for iis.  I've run Apache on my Windows system, and though it is a great server, I've found I can do fine with iis.  You can also install Mysql and it runs fine under iis.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2003, 08:53:00 AM »

Omnihttpd is a good server, it comes with PHP as standard.

www.omnicron.ca

I seriously recommend you just use the lunarpages servers though, and install a firewall if you want to block external visitors from the internet viewing your homepage.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2003, 04:01:00 PM »

Slighly off topic here, and I don't know if you already have it, but there's a great php editor from  DZ Soft  that I use.
Get it here  dzsoft
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2003, 07:27:00 PM »

There is no reason Apache and PHP cannot be installed on a LOCAL system. Just set the IP info for a non-routeable IP or the localhost (127.0.0.1)...The server doesn't have to access the internet to test web sites locally.
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2003, 09:01:00 PM »

Now I'm getting confused.

I have been using Lunarpages but I don't want my trial and error on the internet (and I'd like to do my expermenting offline so I don't tie up the phone line).

Does installing Apache and PHP on my laptop that is not on a network still pose the same security issues... and when I do connect with a dialup conneciton can't I just disable Apache?

PS... I'll check out that PHP editor. Thanks.
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2003, 11:41:00 PM »

All servers are accessible through 127.0.0.1 , you have to make sure no one else can get to it.

Using Apache on a computer with no internet connection means no one can get to it through the internet, so it's ok.

Yeah, you could disable it whenever you go online.
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2003, 12:44:00 AM »

I'm just saying...I don't see a need to install something if I don't have to have it.  If IIS didn't do what I needed it to (serve pages, support php and the other server functions I use), then I would be running apache. I have run Apache on Windows before and it works fine, but I don't use it right now because IIS does what I need.    "[Wink]"
 
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2003, 12:13:00 PM »

So I'm going to make the switch... at the moment I'm downloading my site with Dreamweaver so I have an up to date local copy... I tried to get the Frontpage Site Importer from the Macromedia Exchange but it didn't seem to work.

Anyway, sooner or later I'm going to uninstall the frontpage extensions... any one have any words of warning?

Obvisouly I'll have to convert my form handlers (and any other extensions) from frontpage to PHP or CGI. On that note, what form handlers do you suggest? I have several forms on my site that just send the form contents to me via e-mail (and I'd like one that will re-direct the user to custom confirmation page).

And one other question.. I have one password protected directory that I protected using Fronpage (rather than C-panel). I assume once I disable the FP extentions that password protection will be lifted and I'll have to set it up in C-panel instead. Am I correct in that assumption?

Thanks for all the help!  "[Cool]"

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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2003, 06:23:00 PM »

Well, it just so happens to be that "forms R us"!

For your forms, just click on the cgi link in your CPanel, or go to:
 http://twebman.lunarpages.com/perl/ for a perl or php form and script you can make on-the-fly.

As for protected dirs, all .htaccess files will have to be deleted when you remove FP extensions, only because you no longer need the mess (did I say that?) that FP (read "Microsoft") makes of those files.

Simply go to your Control Panel, and click on Web Protect and follow the directions to password protect any folders you need.  There's also an icon in your Control Panel to set up any directories that require an index file (Index Manager), which disallows people from browsing your directories.
   An alternative to this is to just create a file with Notepad on your computer called .htaccess (that's it, no name, just .htaccess) and in that file just put one line:
Options -Indexes
  Upload a copy of that file to any directory that you don't want people browsing.  One thing..if you protect a directory, that is also set in the .htaccess file, so either upload the file first or set the index manager for it first, then web protect it.
BTW, once you upload it you won't see it in your ftp window, because those files are hidden.  You can see them in your file manager in your CPanel, though.
 
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2003, 11:06:00 PM »

The "Dreamweaver MX Bible" is quite a good book.  It comes with a CD which contains not only the entire .pdf text, but also many extensions, examples, etc.  I found it in the new book section of the local library.  Also Macromedia University online "classes" are well done.  You can find them on their website.  (Tutorials included with the actual software are actually quite good too....just press HELP!)
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