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« on: February 10, 2010, 05:27:09 AM »

Does any one know how to obtain, buy or hire someone to write such a script? I need it to work like this one - http://www.showspan.com/WMH/Home.aspx
(email page to a friend link on right side under banner.)
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010, 06:10:38 AM »

Have you searched Google for a script like this? They've been around forever and I guarantee you that there are free ones available.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 08:14:39 AM »

I like AddThis.com - gives you an embeddable button/widget that lets you e-mail it to a friend or share something on a number of different social platforms.  Check it out here:

http://www.addthis.com/
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 08:36:14 AM »

Whatever you decide to use, ask around to see if the code has been thoroughly vetted and inspected so that

1) it's limited to sending to one address at a time, so it can't be easily used for spamming large numbers of people -- that is, it carefully checks the outgoing email address input by the visitor

2) only specific content, such as a link to the page and maybe a little boilerplate text can be included -- the visitor using this service cannot insert other stuff, such as malware or their own ads (be careful if it permits the sender to add their own text -- at least cleanse it of HTML tags)

"Tell a friend" type pages that aren't well written are a common means of spamming. Don't get your site shut down because it gets used for spam! Even if the message includes the visitor's (sender's) name and email, so it's clearly sent on behalf of someone else, it still might cause your site to be reported for spam. Be careful about using "Tell a friend" features, and be ready to disable it as soon as your site gets reported as a spammer.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 02:32:27 PM »

Try the one on this page: http://www.inhisname.com (on any of the products). If you like it send me private message.

You'll notice we also use AddThis, but having our own Email Friend script provides more functionality than the AddThis email options.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 12:38:32 AM »

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"Tell a friend" type pages that aren't well written are a common means of spamming.
There's the end of the thread right there. No one anymore uses "tell a friend" scripts now. If you're going to send someone a link, you're going to:
A. E-mail them the link
B. IM them the link
C. Social network (Facebook/Twitter/etc.) the link
D. Text the link

"Tell a friend" scripts have a nasty reputation of being used for spam (unwillingly, that is -- you're giving someone strange your and your friend's e-mail), and being exploited to send spam. In this day and age, you're better off not using one.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2010, 05:24:09 AM »

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"Tell a friend" type pages that aren't well written are a common means of spamming.
There's the end of the thread right there. No one anymore uses "tell a friend" scripts now. If you're going to send someone a link, you're going to:
A. E-mail them the link
B. IM them the link
C. Social network (Facebook/Twitter/etc.) the link
D. Text the link

"Tell a friend" scripts have a nasty reputation of being used for spam (unwillingly, that is -- you're giving someone strange your and your friend's e-mail), and being exploited to send spam. In this day and age, you're better off not using one.

Sorry, but I find your post both inaccurate and offensive, for the following reasons:
1) "There's the end of the thread right there." - Who made you the all knowing arbiter of threads? Reminds me of Al Gore saying the climate debate was over.  We all know how that turned out.
2)  "No one anymore uses "tell a friend" scripts now." - I have the stats to prove you wrong.  A number of people use the "Email friend" script on our site everyday.  We also know that a high percentage of people who receive the emails end up buying something. The conversion percentage is much higher than any other type of referral.
3) ""Tell a friend" scripts have a nasty reputation of being used for spam" - Reputable companies don't abuse the trust of their customers, and understand that trust is more valuable than any short term benefits of sending spam. We never have and never will use the emails provided through our "Email friend" script to send anything. I'm sure we are not alone.
4) "being exploited to send spam" - I know there are poorly written "Tell a friend" scripts out there that can and have been exploited. That doesn't mean all "Tell a friend" scripts are easily exploited. Is there any type of technology or tool on the Internet that has never been exploited? If we stopped using a whole classes of things because one or more of them were exploited, there would be nothing left. We've been using our "Email friend" script for a few years and have never had any issues.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2010, 07:45:00 AM »

Reputable companies don't abuse the trust of their customers, and understand that trust is more valuable than any short term benefits of sending spam.

Calm down. I believe that the intent of @DEddelman's statement (perhaps not clearly worded) was that spammers use the TAF facility itself to spam others -- it's not the site owner gathering emails and then spamming those addresses. It's poorly written TAF facilities that permit ad material to be inserted, and be sent to large numbers of people, all on the site's dime (and reputation).
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010, 07:53:07 AM »

Wow, all these comments and the OP hasn't even chimed in since his first post lol
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 07:59:05 AM »

I don't think I misinterpreted the meaning:

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"Tell a friend" scripts have a nasty reputation of being used for spam (unwillingly, that is -- you're giving someone strange your and your friend's e-mail)

The statement in parenthesis clearly indicates that he believes "someone strange" (i.e., the owner of the site) is going to use the email addresses provided for purposes of sending spam.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 10:36:23 PM »

2)  "No one anymore uses "tell a friend" scripts now." - I have the stats to prove you wrong.  A number of people use the "Email friend" script on our site everyday.  We also know that a high percentage of people who receive the emails end up buying something. The conversion percentage is much higher than any other type of referral.
In this day and age, when "Digg This"/"Facebook It"/etc. links are readily available for injecting into your preferred social media, which can reach a much higher userbase, I've never seen very high usage of any sort of script if they are available. I like to think that I maintain a large userbase of connections to people and I can't even remember the last time I received an e-mail inviting me to check out a link (that was legitimate, we've all received links that are promoting spam/malware) sent to me by someone over e-mail unless it was copied+pasted and sent directly by them. I can't count the number of links I've seen over the past few days that were shared over IM, IRC, forums, aggregate sites (Digg, Reddit, etc.), social networking, and more. Lunarpages itself has seen the advantage of these resources and has our very own Mitch working on them.

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3) ""Tell a friend" scripts have a nasty reputation of being used for spam" - Reputable companies don't abuse the trust of their customers, and understand that trust is more valuable than any short term benefits of sending spam. We never have and never will use the emails provided through our "Email friend" script to send anything. I'm sure we are not alone.
Sure, reputable companies don't. However, would you be willing to vouch that every site out there that has a "tell a friend" script on it is reputable and is using it for a legitimate purpose? With the huge influx of spam today, how many people are willing to give their e-mail address out to a random stranger on the off chance it will get them more spam? That's the #1 to get spam -- post your e-mail address out in the open where 'bots can harvest it. Unless I can see where the e-mail address is going, I have no way of knowing who will see it nor what purpose it will be used for. If I sign up for a forum or online service, I have to take a risk, so if it looks dodgy I'll use a junk mailbox, probably something like dodgit.

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4) "being exploited to send spam" - I know there are poorly written "Tell a friend" scripts out there that can and have been exploited. That doesn't mean all "Tell a friend" scripts are easily exploited. Is there any type of technology or tool on the Internet that has never been exploited? If we stopped using a whole classes of things because one or more of them were exploited, there would be nothing left. We've been using our "Email friend" script for a few years and have never had any issues.
There is not a tool or system out there that cannot be exploited. As someone who also does penetration testing and auditing, and someone who's worked at another webhost, I can tell you that, as a fact, the first thing any kiddie runs for are e-mail scripts, and use them for spam. Plain and simple, it's for the money. Spam earns money. I've seen dozens if not hundreds of e-mail scripts get exploited to send out spam, and when that happens, everyone on the server suffers.

I'm not accusing anyone who's using such a tool to be a spammer, that would be baseless and inflammatory. However in recent years there is a decline in the usage of the tool for all the aforementioned reasons. Look at any major site that I've linked to. Better yet, I'll give an example:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/new-3-d-map-of-the-interstellar-gas-around-the-sun/
Wired is a very popular science and technology magazine, with a smattering of tech pulp. All of the "share" links at the bottom of the page are for aggregate sites along with links to the social networking sites where Wired is (ie, Twitter).

Simply put, 'e-mail a friend' scripts are becoming a relic, a tool that used to be useful back when the internet didn't have the unchecked problems it does now. They're becoming as dated as ISA cards and daughterboards.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 12:28:22 PM »

DEddleman,

I agree with most of what you said in your follow-up post. However, I don't necessarily agree with the all the conclusions:

1) Absolutely, people should use social media sites as much as possible. Tools like AddThis are great for that and AddThis includes email as one of it's sharing options for people who prefer that to other options (facebook, digg, etc.). However, the email options in those programs are limited in that they only send a link and you don't get the data necessary if you want to correlate to other activities (e.g. sales). Using social media sharing tools doesn't preclude the use of email to friend functionality.  If you have your own email to friend script you can add value to the email (for example - a product picture, which as they say, is worth a thousand words) and you have data you can correlate.  Although you may think it is old fashioned, the stats I have show that from a conversion rate perspective it is far more effective than any other type of referral. If there are people using it, there is no reason not to offer it.

2) Absolutely, people need to be careful when they are surfing.  If you don't trust a site, you shouldn't use the Email to friend script. Heck, unless I trust a site I don't allow javascript to run.  However, if you are a reputable company that has the trust of your customers, and you are giving them something they use that also helps your sales what wrong with it? It is their choice. They can choose not to use it, they can always use an alternate address, etc.

3) "There is not a tool or system out there that cannot be exploited."  Yes! that was exactly my point. Just about everything has been exploited - bulletin boards, cms (Wordpress, Joomla), social media (facebook, twitter, myspace), etc.  So, why single out email friend scripts as evil? It you have your own email friend script at least you are in control and can fix potential vulnerabilities as opposed to many of these other tools where you are just trusting the developer.  Email friend scripts also have the advantage of having very limited functionality, so it is relatively easy address potential vulnerabilities.
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