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mi_gwich
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« on: May 07, 2007, 03:42:26 PM »

I KNOW NOTHING about creating a web site.

My site will consist of a "sales page" viewable to the public.  From here I will pitch my site and people will be able to subscribe to the main site, which will only be accessable with a username and password.  I want people to be able to create there own user name and password when they subscribe......I want the site to automatically update the subscription list with the subscribers username and password.  I also want an auto e-mail, containing a "thank you", "welcome", a link for activation , and username/password reminder, sent to the subsciber's e-mail.

Do I need a CMS?

Any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2007, 03:54:49 PM »

Hey mi_gwich, Welcome to Lunarforums     Welcome

If you nothing of coding, designing or building websites and would rather learn a CMS than to pay someone to do it all for you, then I would definitely suggest using a CMS. I would personally recommend Joomla as having all you need and having the easiest learning curve. You can install it automatically from Cpanel via Fantastico and they have a very good support team and forums plus there are people here in these forums that use it and can also help.


I hope this was helpful,
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2007, 01:46:23 PM »

Mitch,

I've been eyeing Joomla myself.  Our website is full of static pages, not database info, but I'd like to have data change dynamically as dates pass (i.e. - I want to input agendas for a month and have the next one cycle every other Tuesday).  I'd also like to have Dept Head's be able to update ONLY their portions of the website, so access control is a must.  Is Joomla a perfect fit or overkill for this?

I've also been reading about the upcoming release of Joomla 1.5 and have been told that if I haven't started building a site yet, to wait for the 1.5 release before doing so.  Are new releases set up on Fantastico fairly quickly or does this take some time before they are upgraded?

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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2007, 01:49:08 PM »

I would go ahead and give it a shot - install it in a test folder first to see if you are going to like working on it.  Personally I wouldn't wait - because Fantatico takes a while to update anyways, so that might be making you wait even longer, and by then you could be waiting for Joomla 2. Smile  Hope that helps!
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2007, 07:01:59 PM »

Mitch - I'd love to give it a shot!  When you say "install it in a test folder", could you be more specific?  I'm new to Joomla and need a little guidance.  Does it really matter where it is installed?  If I install it in a test folder is it difficult to move my work to a "working" folder?

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 08:01:27 PM »

CMS sites are great to give the user most of the functions of a major site, an administration back end, and permission based user groups. However, the problem normally comes when you want to install a custom program, you have a custom need, or an issue in the cms arises (it will happen). Most people also have a problem when they want their site to look different then the other 200,000 cms users out there.  Most cms templates are not easy for a non designer/programmer to create.  Which means you either learn the design laws of the cms you're using or you pay someone that knows them to create a template for you.

I would suggest you learn how to manually install whatever cms system you decide to use. Learn how to install addon's, learn how to use phpmyadmin, learn your way around the databases.  Self install programs that hosts use are almost always out of date and do not keep up with any security packages for the cms systems.  So it's a value to you and your future members that you have the knowledge how to do it yourself.

Do not forget to backup your site to your local hard drive (cpanel can do this) do not trust the "host" backup.  Sooner or later an issue will arise and there is nothing worse then losing all your data. It will doubly sting if you have an active member base, customer data, or an active forum.  Yes, most hosts offer backup services, but on more then one occasion I've had a host "restore" data and the databases are not correct, permissions settings are not right and the CMS will not function. This is when knowing how your cms works comes into play. If you don't know how the cms actually works you will be in a panic and end up shelling out cash to someone to fix your setup.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 05:01:52 AM »

Here is a previous guide I wrote on installing Joomla:

http://blog.lunarpages.com/2007/10/25/how-do-you-install-joomla/

If your going to test it out first (for example, install it into yoursite.com/joomlatest/) I would recommend uninstalling that and then reinstalling under your main domain once you were sure you wanted to use it.  You could also just test it out here at Open Source CMS - they have a demo version there you can play with before hand.
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