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« on: May 28, 2008, 06:34:43 AM » |
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I'm building two sites
One is a standard static site to do business with folks regarding audio engineering and such. The second is a WordPress site designed for use by the folks that would benefit from the business taking place on site #1. Site #2 (wordpress) will offer streaming audio, downloading, and Podcasting options (I'm looking at PodPress because it seems to offer what I'm looking for).
Now... I know that I need to upload the MP3 files to a server - being a Podcaster myself I already use hosting sites for my own show, but I want to be able to archive the audio resulting from the business taking place on site #1 on site #2 by categories and such. Since I need to upload the files to a server anyhow, should I create a "database" page for the MP3s on my own site - and if so should I store them on site #1 or create a page on site #2 (the WPress site), or does it even matter?
In a nutshell:
Should I store the media on my static site, or on the WPress site (can I even do it on WP), or neither - and why?
As always,
Thanking you in advance
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 06:58:25 AM » |
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As somebody who does use WordPress to podcast, let me see if I can help out here. This is the way I do things... http://blog.lunarpages.com/2006/12/06/low-budget-podcasting-guide/PodPress is nice, but you really don't even need it. Instead I would suggest just linking to the audio files (just FTP them all into a "shows" folder) in your posts via the WordPress blog, and then push your RSS feed through FeedBurner. They will convert your RSS feed into an "iTunes Ready" podcast feed.
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 07:31:04 AM » |
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I would suggest just linking to the audio files (just FTP them all into a "shows" folder) in your posts via the WordPress blog
Ok (I do like the PodPress look and user friendly interface - especially for folks that just want to hit the "play" button and listen directly from the site - this site will offer 3 listening choices), so you've created a page to upload the files to (via ftp, of course) and then link from there? These are not my content - my Podcast is completely seperate, and I will potentially have audio files from dozens of separate individuals, so categorizing, cataloging, and archiving is quite important. In fact, I'm thinking that the page that the files are stored should be kept invisible to others, and maybe make an "Audio Archive" page with file names that will pull from that content page for downloading...  *phew* That's a spicy meatball! Oh, and thanks as always for your input, Mitch.
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 07:49:20 AM » |
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Yeah I might have used it myself but it didn't come out till after I had started mine, and didn't want to change the way I had been doing things. For the audio player per post - I use this plugin for WordPress from here: http://www.1pixelout.net/code/audio-player-wordpress-plugin/With categories and organizing, I'd just let the WordPress install handle that, making a page per audio file. Might be easier if you check out my podcast page here: http://www.webhostingshow.comThen let me know what you would like to do that is the same or different than what you see there?
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 07:54:23 AM » |
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Hey! That's pretty neat-o... Nice options too!
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 07:58:58 AM » |
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Might be easier if you check out my podcast page here: http://www.webhostingshow.comThen let me know what you would like to do that is the same or different than what you see there? Cool! Looks good. Now, where are the audio files? Are they stored on a page that the public can't see and the player is just pulling from there?
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 08:03:32 AM » |
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I just toss them into a folder called /showarchives/. Don't think there is any reason to hide this from anybody, because if people are going to work hard enough to look through there they are a pretty dedicated fan. For example, if I upload a show on Saturday, and then don't post about it "with the link" till Monday and they find it on Sunday, it doesn't bug me. All that I care about is that people are downloading each show and tuning in.  If you go there via your browser, I just have an empty index.html file sitting in there: http://www.webhostingshow.com/showarchives/All the shows are numbered though so if you do the same, it won't be hard for people to figure out podcast2.mp3 comes after podcast1.mp3. Overall, I'd say don't sweat it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 08:20:17 AM » |
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1st of all I need you to come out to the house for a weekend so I can pick yer brain... The wife cooks real good!  Now that page is an html page so that brings me to a couple other questions: Is that html page a WordPress page? Isn't an html page "static", yet WP is "dynamic"? Can I creat "static" pages and upload them to the same public_html folder for that domain? Also, I have two domain names for the same site - the main domain actually redirects to the secondary domain. Since domain " www.maindomain.com" redirects to "secondarydomain.com" could I still build a page called " www.maindomain.com/something", or would it not be accessible because " www.maindomain.com" redirects to "secondarydomain.com"? Does that make any sense? 
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 08:34:04 AM » |
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Might have to take you up on that offer.  No, the empty index.html page in there is unassociated with WordPress, just dropped it in there to keep the file listing of the folder of being shown. You could also do that via .htaccess but for me, just dropping an empty index.html file there seems to be easier. If you have maindomain.com parked on top of secondarydomain.com, then you'd want to keep all your sites and pages relative to the secondarydomain.com domain name. You could though split these off into two separate web sites, having one being the main or primary account, and setup the second one as a addon domain. This link should help a 'bit more in that department: https://support.lunarpages.com/knowledge_bases/article/148My main question would be why do you have them both going to the same spot right now? I would do all your web site management via WordPress. It has great publishing and "blogging" features, but also has a section for "pages" too. So say you wanted to write up an "about us" page or anything else you wouldn't consider needed in the blog or podcast publication stream. This link here will help with that: http://codex.wordpress.org/PagesIf there is anything else I can help with please feel free to ask! 
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 08:50:48 AM » |
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My main question would be why do you have them both going to the same spot right now?
The reason is that my clients are religion based and go into every conceivable country. The technical name of the site/business is along the lines of "myincrediblyreligioussoundingdomain.com" - and that is how I tell folk to contact me. However, in many countries the government filters any site addresses that sounds like incrediblyreligioussoundingdomain.com. So for folks in those counties they can type in the acronym of "myirsd.com" to access the site. I was actually asked to make the domain as innocuous as possible for those circumstances. I kept "myincrediblyreligioussoundingdomain.com" because its easier for me to say than the acronym, believe it or not - and again, it is the real name of the site.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 08:55:15 AM » |
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No, the empty index.html page in there is unassociated with WordPress, just dropped it in there to keep the file listing of the folder of being shown. You could also do that via .htaccess but for me, just dropping an empty index.html file there seems to be easier.
So then, is that where you upload your audio files?
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2008, 09:07:51 AM » |
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Alright, that makes sense. For now I would focus on your main domain you want people to associate with your site, and then have the others redirect to it. So if I go to thisdomain.com it automatically takes me to thatdomain.com instead.
Also yes, that folder in question is where all my audio files live as far as the past podcast I have done goes.
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2008, 10:33:47 AM » |
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Ok... hopefully my last question for awhile! How do I resolved these two quotes: Also yes, that folder in question is where all my audio files live as far as the past podcast I have done goes.
I'm missing something. You put a blank page in the "index.html" page, but the file you upload to is called "/showarchives/". Please explain that process to me. Is that a folder you put inside the index.html page and then ftp the mp3s to that folder?  I'm a ding-dong
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2008, 10:57:22 AM » |
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Yeah I just have the blank index.html file in there to keep people from seeing everything that is in that folder. I have removed it for the time being so you can see an example of what is inside of my /showarchives/ folder: http://www.webhostingshow.com/showarchives/Hope that helps!
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 11:00:25 AM » |
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I have removed it for the time being so you can see an example of what is inside of my /showarchives/ folder:
I see absolutely nothing. Not even a blank (white) page! 
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